This a great forum for researching human nature.

[woof!]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_brain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuron

But perhaps all that is just a bunch of stuff that the "dead German" club made up just to deceive us from the liberating truth that between our ears, it's all really just a blob of jello....

--Toto

 

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[woof!]

C'mon, Judy, those are the flat ones. They've been stepped on.

But I've got a question for you, maybe you can answer it during intermission: that Howdy Doody of yours, if you remove the mechanical components and then pack its head full of jello, does it get smarter, or dumber? (Don't worry, I won't demand proof.)

--Toto

 

[aarthrj3811]

~Woof~

While I don't claim to have so much knowledge that I have an ability to judge, I will say that I can use the same method of forming opinions that I do with artwork---I know what I like.

You have the part about forming opinions down pretty good..What’s the market price of old opinions now days ?

 

[woof!]

~Woof~

While I don't claim to have so much knowledge that I have an ability to judge, I will say that I can use the same method of forming opinions that I do with artwork---I know what I like.

You have the part about forming opinions down pretty good..What’s the market price of old opinions now days ?

Art, falsifying stuff yet again! That was EE's post, not mine! Do you think nobody notices, or is getting caught half the fun?

--Toto

 

[woof!]

woofie---

EE, here's an interesting challenge, if you have as much time to jump through hoops as you insist that other people have to jump through yours.

Post a statement of something you regard as scientific unassailable fact in any field you choose, and then you prove it to us.

How much easier could it get? One fact, and you get to choose it.

--Toto

Standard diversion tactics. You're getting desperate.

Go have some pablum and take a nap.

When you wake up, find somebody to stick a fork in you---because YOU'RE DONE!

EE, I'll bet a virtual plastic fork that never in your life has someone responded to your obsession with "proven facts" by challenging you to pick just one fact, any fact, any fact you like, and then prove it. If it's never happened before, it's not quite "standard". Do I owe you a virtual plastic fork, or not?

And not a diversion as you wish it were, but rather cutting to the chase. It's an object lesson on the nature of proof, something you seem to be obsessed with. If you're interested in understanding dowsing but are unwilling to stray from the path of what other people can prove to you and establish as solid fact, you'll reach a dead end real quick. For starters, you'll have to eliminate all anecdotal reports. Your own personal experiences if any, would be suspect if you allowed them but nobody else's, so even those would have to go. Without anecdotal reports of dowsing, you'd have never even heard of dowsing. That's how dead the dead end is.

So do you have any interest in dowsing, or was this all just a subterfuge for trying to get a thing going over the continuing saga of Nazi politics? Interesting story for those unfamiliar with it, but wrong forum.

--Toto

 

[EE THr]

EE, if all you know about psychology is the Nazi-CIA kind, I am grateful that you prefer not to practice it.

--Toto

Well, that was your first error. You assumed that I knew nothing about psychology.



P.S.

Are you aware that a hypothetical is the second weakest form of argument?

 

[EE THr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_brain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuron

But perhaps all that is just a bunch of stuff that the "dead German" club made up just to deceive us from the liberating truth that between our ears, it's all really just a blob of jello....

--Toto

Thanks for the links, but they don't show all that computing stuff that you are so profusely spewing.

So show me all that stuff. And throw in a scope shot of all that data transfer, while you're at it!

Where is all that?









Oh yeah, I forgot, it's only in your imagination!

 

[EE THr]

...your obsession with "proven facts"

Ah, the insults again! Insults are used when someone has run out of actual data, and they are a last ditch effore to win by intimidation. It's also the #1 weakest form of argument, coming in ahead of hypotheticals. Lame, very lame. Sorry.

...unwilling to stray from the path of what other people can prove to you and establish as solid fact,...

You have failed to prove any of your daydreams to be any kind of fact, whatsoever.

So do you have any interest in dowsing, or was this all just a subterfuge for trying to get a thing going over the continuing saga of Nazi politics?

Another attempt at "Limitation by Multiple Choice" fallacy. I thought you were eddy-kated?






Same old stuff. BS fluff. No substantiated data.





P.S. You keep stating how bad things like "proof " and "proven facts" are. It's called r-e-a-l-i-t-y, woofie. You should try it sometime. Man-up, and have a go at it. Imagination is good, but insisting that others believe in your fantasies is not healthy. Just because you can't draw me into your fairy tale world, you try to insult me. Have you got a friend or close family member that you can talk to?

 

[EE THr]

Hypothetically, assuming you know anything about psychology, in view of your numerous previous postings regarding such it would be safe to assume that what you know was learned from the couch.

IF. The biggest little word in the english language.

I'm sorry if the psychologists let you down, EE. But, assuming that you know anything about psychology, you would know that NPD is one of the hardest disorders to treat due to the denial factor. (Just ask Ted). And since we are speaking hypothetically.....there's no charge.

I've already stated the value of hypotheticals in rebuttals.

Your entire comment is based on assumptions. You, also, seem to be big on assumptions, even valuing them over reality (You notice I didn't recommend you to woofie this time, sorry).

If you have trouble with NPD, just do what the real shrinks do: Drug them down, and hope that nobody notices their problem because they're so doped-up, then claim to have cured them! Of course they won't be able to live a creative and constructive life under the influence of that stuff, but what do you care, right?

 

[EE THr]

Judy & woofie---

Your posts are getting as silly as the LRLrs, after they have run out of anything close to logical to say.

Until you can face facts, why don't you two just talk to each other. Maybe that will help.





Let me know when, and if, you make it back to reality.

 

[woof!]

So EE, do I owe you that virtual plastic fork, or not?

--Toto

 

[EE THr]

woofie---

woofie---

EE, here's an interesting challenge, if you have as much time to jump through hoops as you insist that other people have to jump through yours.

Post a statement of something you regard as scientific unassailable fact in any field you choose, and then you prove it to us.

How much easier could it get? One fact, and you get to choose it.

--Toto

Standard diversion tactics. You're getting desperate.

“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
---Albert Einstein

 

[EE THr]

woofie---

So, back to dowsing, as you suggested---

So, back to dowsing. Something decides where to point the rods, and I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't happen in a body without a brain. And I'm pretty sure that a dead brain won't suffice, the thing has to be functioning. And that leads straight to psychology.

--Toto

If you owned a race car, and you were the driver, could it win a race without a engine? (No.) Would that mean that you don't exist? (No.)

If you had a race car, and you were in a race, but your engine blew up; your car wouldn't be able to win the race, so does that mean that you don't exist? (No.)


Furthermore, a person couldn't dowse with a missing or dead heart, either. Or lungs. Or neck. And so forth.

Your logic, in your statements above, is constrained by your assumptions. That's bad science. you are still trying to use a conclusion as a premise. Naughty-naughty. That's a no-no. Bad dog, BAD dog.





If you think that successful dowsing ability can be explained by psychology, then let's hear it.

But I mean a real explanation, based on established facts, not just your hunches.

I'm all ears.

 

[woof!]

EE, anecdotal information is not established facts. Without anecdotal information, you'd never have even heard of dowsing. When it comes to discussing dowsing with anyone (even with yourself), you hit a dead end of your own devising.

On the other hand if you've got an established fact of your own that you think cuts the mustard, post it and prove it and you'll win that virtual plastic fork that I'm done with. Limited time only. Offer void where taxed or prohibited. Must be present to win.

--Toto

 

[EE THr]

Look, woofie, this is your topic, your original post with your suggested theme; not mine.

It looks like we have grounds for convergence on an interesting discussion!

....

Knowing human nature, I predict that this forum can't embark on that quest.

I would love to be proven wrong. Who wants to go first?

--Toto

Without anecdotal information, you'd never have even heard of dowsing. When it comes to discussing dowsing with anyone (even with yourself), you hit a dead end of your own devising.

--Toto

If you don't want to talk about it, that's fine with me, since it wasn't my idea to do so in the first place.

P.S. I guess you finally proved yourself right, though. But, by your own failure to be able to discuss anything but your own fantasies. It turns out that it's not "this forum" who "can't embark on this quest," but you, yourself. (Your beloved psychology calls that "projecting.")

You stated, above, "Knowing human nature, I predict...."

Do you really know human nature? It seems you don't even know your own!






I guess this is, according to the OP, the end of this topic.

R.I.P.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: This a great forum for researching human nature.

I agree that this tread is a great teaching opportunity for Treasure Hunters…It is teaching every one just how the skeptics come up with their theories..Keep up the good work…art

 

[woof!]

Well, at least anyone who thought that all skeptics are "Randy clones" had an opportunity to discover otherwise.

--Toto

 

[aarthrj3811]

~woof~

Well, at least anyone who thought that all skeptics are "Randy clones" had an opportunity to discover otherwise.

I grew up on a Hazel Nut Farm..I was taught to keep them in one basket…Art

 

[woof!]

Not necessarily. But I have to admit, the show was entertaining.

Hmm...Geology...Psychology.....where will he turn up next? And in what role?

Medical research.

The world's an interesting place.

--Toto

 

[woof!]

~woof~

Well, at least anyone who thought that all skeptics are "Randy clones" had an opportunity to discover otherwise.

I grew up on a Hazel Nut Farm..I was taught to keep them in one basket…Art

Love those hazelnuts!

--Toto