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[fenixdigger]

I sort of wish I was smart enough to "know' what some one could do and not do. Nah, that would be an obvious sign of something. Wish I knew what. ,,,,,,,,Oh !!!! I do.

Life is like riding a train. You just never know who's hand is on the throttle.

 

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[EE THr]

Can you please tell us where and when this real test will occur?

Sure. You are going to take the test, then?

 

[EddieR]

fenix---

Well you can "OMG" this: A home movie is not proof of anything. The "silver dollar" could easily have been palmed, or planted, or anything else.

If someone is going to go to the trouble of making a home movie, when it's obviously not proof, is only doing it because they can't pass a real test.

artie is trying to substitute a home movie for the real test, because he can't pass the real thing. If he could, he would, for several obvious reasons. So he just can't.

And neither can you.

That's life.




ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

If a home movie is not going to be considered as proof, then why do you guys keep harping about somebody making a video showing a recovery??

 

[EE THr]

fenix---

That's a legitimate question. I'm the one who has mentioned the benefit of a good video of a real treasure hunt, several times. I would consider that to be second best, to a test like Carl's.

But it would need to be a real locating of something, preferably of value, of course. And it would have to show a fresh dig in undisturbed ground.

I know there is no real way of proving artie's silver dollar video, one way or another. Maybe it's not his fault, but the video really isn't good for showing as positively as possible, a good example. There are too many points in the film that look like it's faked.

Maybe he did find one of the silver dollars, which pretty much disappeared since 1968, in one of the Recreational Vehicle areas, which are fairly new to public use, in general.

But if he did really locate that dollar, that video just isn't suitable for being convincing. My contention is that since he bragged about going treasure hunting often, he could easily bring a camcorder along and document it. And an indisputably fresh dig would be about as good as a video could get.

Unfortunately, videos can easily be staged. But it does seem like someone who treasure hunts a lot, and is, as he says, very, very successful at it, would already have a video library of hunts. And if not, it shouldn't be much trouble to record his next trip. That's about all there is to that.

Just sayin'....

 

[fenixdigger]

The general consensus is that no video will suffice and surly subject the submitter to more harassment.

I MAY go as far as to film a small recovery, but it will only be of the ground and digging. For the rest of the crew to agree could be
tough.

I have 2 targets I am going to chase next week on my own. What's not understood about this, is the time it takes to get to the point of digging. I dam sure am not filming 6 to 10 hrs. I'm too busy hunting to fool with that when I'm out there.

AND, I'm far from convinced it would serve any purpose. Shame a lot more people haven't heard of the Book of The Five Rings.

 

[aarthrj3811]

But it would need to be a real locating of something, preferably of value, of course. And it would have to show a fresh dig in undisturbed ground

That would be hard to do on this earth…In fact it would be impossible..Wind, rain, snow, earthquakes and human activity are all disturbers of the ground.

Maybe he did find one of the silver dollars, which pretty much disappeared since 1968, in one of the Recreational Vehicle areas, which are fairly new to public use, in general.

I don’t know when the Nevada Casinos quit using Silver Dollars as chips but I know it was after 1968…I also know that Recreational Vehicle areas are not new here on the west coast….Some time in the late 70’s or early in the 80’s

 

[EE THr]

We went off the silver standard in 1968. At that point silver dollars became only redeemable in Federal Reserve Note dollar bills, rather than Silver Certificate dollar bills. So the value of real silver dollars jumped up immediately.

People began hoarding them. They disappeared from public use. Nobody in their right mind would spend a silver dollar, as it's monetary value remained at only one dollar. You could take them to any coin shop and get way more, or save them until now, when silver is much higher.

Who is going to take silver dollars out into the woods? They have no reason to, and every reason not to. So it would be a very, very rare find, indeed. Even in Nevada. But you conveniently have a few of them lying around, don't you? I think you've shown a few pictures of them on here?





P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

 

[aarthrj3811]

Who is going to take silver dollars out into the woods? They have no reason to, and every reason not to. So it would be a very, very rare find, indeed. Even in Nevada. But you conveniently have a few of them lying around, don't you? I think you've shown a few pictures of them on here?

Gee…My son has carried a silver dollar in his pocket for 40 some years..it is a special silver dollar for him..the first dollar he ever made….Yes I have found a few silver dollars..I found some under the floor of a burnt down timber cutters shack..

 

[fenixdigger]

Just a thought. Any idea of how many "ghost" towns are in the "woods"? I was told that on nearly every hill, someone has lived.

I can't even tell you how many times that has been true. I have a friend that found an old map that had the property and fence lines on it.

With just a probe, he has found "many" post hole banks.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

EE : Perhaps today, but in the past? in the early 1900's a dollar was worth quite a bit. When I was
almost literally shanghaied into the Navy in 1941, I received $ 20 month. The services of a fair maid
was up to $2:00 - at least that is what I heard, honest, Unicorn, Judy. Many that had em, carried them,
used / lost them.

This is what they were created for - the coins the coins..

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[EE THr]

Gee…My son has carried a silver dollar in his pocket for 40 some years..it is a special silver dollar for him..the first dollar he ever made….

Yeah, and in all that time, he never lost his special "lucky dollar," did he?







P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

 

[EddieR]

Gee…My son has carried a silver dollar in his pocket for 40 some years..it is a special silver dollar for him..the first dollar he ever made….

Yeah, and in all that time, he never lost his special "lucky dollar," did he?







P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

It sounds like you are implying that a person cannot lose a silver dollar?

 

[EE THr]

ER---

What I am saying is exactly what I said.








P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

 

[EddieR]

We went off the silver standard in 1968. At that point silver dollars became only redeemable in Federal Reserve Note dollar bills, rather than Silver Certificate dollar bills. So the value of real silver dollars jumped up immediately.

People began hoarding them. They disappeared from public use. Nobody in their right mind would spend a silver dollar, as it's monetary value remained at only one dollar. You could take them to any coin shop and get way more, or same them until now, when silver is much higher.

Who is going to take silver dollars out into the woods? They have no reason to, and every reason not to. So it would be a very, very rare find, indeed. Even in Nevada. But you conveniently have a few of them lying around, don't you? I think you've shown a few pictures of them on here?





P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

The best finds are made by researching areas that have been covered over by years of growth. My oldest silver dollar was found on a mountain, a 45 minute walk off the main road. The only way a person would ever know that there had been a homesite there was the flowers that still grew there ( my uncle told me about the flowers, he was hiking and ran across the site). There wasn't much coinage, but a lot of relics. But I did find the silver dollar...a 1778 Spanish dollar.

 

[EddieR]

ER---

What I am saying is exactly what I said.








P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

Yep, I thought so.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Psst Eddie, that would be an 8 reales coin. legal coinage in the US for paying debts until the late 1800's. This is what Washington allegedly threw across the Potomac river.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Unicorn]

EE : Perhaps today, but in the past? in the early 1900's a dollar was worth quite a bit. When I was
almost literally shanghaied into the Navy in 1941, I received $ 20 month. The services of a fair maid
was up to $2:00 - at least that is what I heard, honest, Unicorn, Judy. Many that had em, carried them,
used / lost them.

This is what they were created for - the coins the coins..
Don Jose de La Mancha

You really expect us to believe that Don Jose phew... and pigs might fly. Ah! so this could be the next theory that you men folk would like to explore......Can pigs fly...... sheesh.... men... ....

 

[EddieR]

Psst Eddie, that would be an 8 reales coin. legal coinage in the US for paying debts until the late 1800's. This is what Washington allegedly threw across the Potomac river.

Don Jose de La Mancha

Thanks, Real. It was quite an unexpected find here in Tennessee.....

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

unicorn luv, it was just a rumor, honest, do you think that a secluded, chaste, saint such as I, would ----?

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[aarthrj3811]

Just a thought. Any idea of how many "ghost" towns are in the "woods"? I was told that on nearly every hill, someone has lived.
I can't even tell you how many times that has been true. I have a friend that found an old map that had the property and fence lines on it.
With just a probe, he has found "many" post hole banks.

It is always interesting when in the mountains..You find old campfire rings, split railings, tree stumps cut with a hand axe, old stoves, remains of cabins an old mine shafts..My favorite is the old Aspen Groves..Always something different there…I like the markings made be the many different people that have been there. Wonder why they were there…Art