This a great forum for researching human nature.
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fenixdigger
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If you will look at the "front" of the amoeba, you will notice a small LRL used in locating usable fuel. That thing on the other end,,, well you know.
EE THr
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woofie---
So, you listen to the physical universe? And who does it communicate to you through, your bow-wow?
Or maybe Judy's cigar? (By the way, nice man cave you have there, "Judy.")
woof! said:
So, you listen to the physical universe? And who does it communicate to you through, your bow-wow?
Or maybe Judy's cigar? (By the way, nice man cave you have there, "Judy.")
EE THr
Silver Member
I'll pass on that, thanks.
aarthrj3811
Gold Member
Please do not stop now..This is so important to the future of Treasure Hunting..How would anyone be able to enjoy treasure hunting without your great theories about the human mind..thank you for the great theories that will help all treasure hunters do their hobby better..Art
EE THr
Silver Member
Some people have confused the word "psychic" with the Miss Cleo scenerio.
Although that kind of thing (if she were real), would be a part of it.
And, even though the word "psychology" means the study of the soul or spirit, modern day psychologists/iatrists spend considerable time and effort, in attempting to stomp out the real definition, and to stomp out the realization of the soul, or spirit, itself. See: psychology, and scroll down to the section titled, "Word Origin and History."
If this is true, then why has Psychology perverted itself? Because of orders from above them in the money chain. From people in the Government. Why does the Government do this? Because of orders from above even them.
Here is just one example---
(In case anyone doesn't know, the CFR is not a part of our Government, in any way. It is a totally private organization.)
Certain people, who feel they must totally control others, do not want anyone to realize the freedom and power which is inherent in all of us. Because if everyone knew, then we all could research and develop our psychic abilities, throw out the scams (who would need Miss Cleo?), and organize the true facts and methods.
The money monger control freaks would then have no control of anyone, whatsoever. So, they only validate those who preach that man is made of mud, and only mud. And those who are convinced of that, can then be threatened, as they feel they have no power, and have only one life.
My advice would be to think for yourself. Form your own opinions from your own experience.
Nevertheless, the list below still stands.
Big Four Proofs of LRLs Fraud
Each person will have to figure that one out for themselves, using their own judgement.
Although that kind of thing (if she were real), would be a part of it.
And, even though the word "psychology" means the study of the soul or spirit, modern day psychologists/iatrists spend considerable time and effort, in attempting to stomp out the real definition, and to stomp out the realization of the soul, or spirit, itself. See: psychology, and scroll down to the section titled, "Word Origin and History."
If this is true, then why has Psychology perverted itself? Because of orders from above them in the money chain. From people in the Government. Why does the Government do this? Because of orders from above even them.
Here is just one example---
(In case anyone doesn't know, the CFR is not a part of our Government, in any way. It is a totally private organization.)
Certain people, who feel they must totally control others, do not want anyone to realize the freedom and power which is inherent in all of us. Because if everyone knew, then we all could research and develop our psychic abilities, throw out the scams (who would need Miss Cleo?), and organize the true facts and methods.
The money monger control freaks would then have no control of anyone, whatsoever. So, they only validate those who preach that man is made of mud, and only mud. And those who are convinced of that, can then be threatened, as they feel they have no power, and have only one life.
My advice would be to think for yourself. Form your own opinions from your own experience.
Nevertheless, the list below still stands.
Big Four Proofs of LRLs Fraud
Each person will have to figure that one out for themselves, using their own judgement.
aarthrj3811
Gold Member
Thank You…The owner/users here on t-net have made their decision..end of story..Art
EE THr
Silver Member
Artie---
I don't have a problem with that. As long as they are happy, that's all that counts, anyway, right?
It's just the people who buy something, expecting that it will perform a certain way, according to what they perceive the advertising infers, and are then extremely disappointed when it doesn't. Those are the ones who honest, friendly people would help to gain an understanding of what they should expect.
But that is the case with all good people (that would exclude politicians) everywhere, about any product.
Wouldn't you agree?
I don't have a problem with that. As long as they are happy, that's all that counts, anyway, right?
It's just the people who buy something, expecting that it will perform a certain way, according to what they perceive the advertising infers, and are then extremely disappointed when it doesn't. Those are the ones who honest, friendly people would help to gain an understanding of what they should expect.
But that is the case with all good people (that would exclude politicians) everywhere, about any product.
Wouldn't you agree?
aarthrj3811
Gold Member
We have heard all that before…You are just here to help people…Could you tell us where all these people are?..We can find no lawsuits or do they not post on the forums..They are just missing persons..
In over a year we have had 3 people who own one of these devices….I know that one of them was real but I think the other 2 were just Skeptics..
The only people on this board that hate LRL’s and MFD’s are not treasure hunters..Most have never saw a real LRL or MFD. None have ever used one or attended a demonstration…
So.,.just keep up the good skeptical party line as the treasure hunter know the truth from fiction…
How do I spell...Con men or Scam Artist ?...Art
EE THr
Silver Member
Artie---
And, by the same token, there seems to be only about three people on here who hard-core proponents, too. And two of them are known to be LRL makers, and the other one seems to be working for LRL makers. Things balance out, don't they?
Like I said in the very beginning, if all you did was come on and post your daily finds, like others who hunt daily do, that would be one thing. But nooooooooooooo. You few folks have to fill your posts with irregular claims of mysterious finds by who-knows-who, and attribute them to LRLs' use.
And you folks have to insult anyone questioning the scientific validity of the makers' so-called scientific explanations of how they work, instead of showing any actual defined electronic theory that would explain it.
And add to that, all the rest of the "filler" type posts that you folks write, just to keep promoting LRLs, when nobody is asking about them.
Why do you care so much about the reputation of these things?
If you like them, why not just go out and use them, and be happy about that? Post your finds like everyone else does. Show some pictures of digging up something in undisturbed ground, rather than "finding" something just sitting on the surface, with a rock over it?
I made my post, above, without any insults toward you. Why can't you do the same? When you insult people, and don't provide any of the normal stuff I just mentioned, it makes it appear that you have nothing to show or tell (on a regular basis, anyway), so you lower yourself to insults instead.
We've already seen all you folks' stock photos from the Web, and your posed shots, and photoshoped images. When are you going to come up with fresh stuff every post, like all the normal hunters do? Or else why post at all, if you have nothing new to bring to the table? Unless, of course, you all are working PR people? If you wonder why people keep accusing you of that, it's because it is so obvious!
aarthrj3811 said:
And, by the same token, there seems to be only about three people on here who hard-core proponents, too. And two of them are known to be LRL makers, and the other one seems to be working for LRL makers. Things balance out, don't they?
Like I said in the very beginning, if all you did was come on and post your daily finds, like others who hunt daily do, that would be one thing. But nooooooooooooo. You few folks have to fill your posts with irregular claims of mysterious finds by who-knows-who, and attribute them to LRLs' use.
And you folks have to insult anyone questioning the scientific validity of the makers' so-called scientific explanations of how they work, instead of showing any actual defined electronic theory that would explain it.
And add to that, all the rest of the "filler" type posts that you folks write, just to keep promoting LRLs, when nobody is asking about them.
Why do you care so much about the reputation of these things?
If you like them, why not just go out and use them, and be happy about that? Post your finds like everyone else does. Show some pictures of digging up something in undisturbed ground, rather than "finding" something just sitting on the surface, with a rock over it?
I made my post, above, without any insults toward you. Why can't you do the same? When you insult people, and don't provide any of the normal stuff I just mentioned, it makes it appear that you have nothing to show or tell (on a regular basis, anyway), so you lower yourself to insults instead.
We've already seen all you folks' stock photos from the Web, and your posed shots, and photoshoped images. When are you going to come up with fresh stuff every post, like all the normal hunters do? Or else why post at all, if you have nothing new to bring to the table? Unless, of course, you all are working PR people? If you wonder why people keep accusing you of that, it's because it is so obvious!
aarthrj3811
Gold Member
Poor reading on your part..Over 60 different LRL owners have POSTED their views on here
EE THr
Silver Member
EE THr said:
Read, artichoke, r-e-a-d !
Like I suggested to you before, you should take some of your treasure loot, and invest it into a high-end translator. Maybe that's the problem.
EE THr
Silver Member
Mr. Judy---
I assure you that that you have no need to focus your attention on my end.
I assure you that that you have no need to focus your attention on my end.
EE THr
Silver Member
Since the thread seems to have been degraded, from an intelligent discussion about how dowsing might work, and the lack of ability of Science to explain it, I'll continue the thread in it's original direction, which was "Researching Human Nature."
It was suggested that, since Science hasn't been able to explain dowsing or LRLs, that it would be up to Psychology to do that.
My contention was that Psychology would not be a suitable source for a real explanation, because Psychology isn't a real Science. That is, it might me called a science by those who practice and promote it, but it is not done Scientifically. Big difference there!
As some have often requested, I will back up my statements with the following---
This is an excerpt from the Rosenhan experiment, Wikipedia
The Rosenhan experiment was a famous experiment into the validity of psychiatric diagnosis conducted by psychologist David Rosenhan in 1973. It was published in the journal Science under the title "On being sane in insane places." The study is considered an important and influential criticism of psychiatric diagnosis.
Rosenhan's study was done in two parts. The first part involved the use of healthy associates or "pseudopatients" who briefly simulated auditory hallucinations in an attempt to gain admission to 12 different psychiatric hospitals in five different states in various locations in the United States. All were admitted and diagnosed with psychiatric disorders. After admission, the pseudopatients acted normally and told staff that they felt fine and had not experienced any more hallucinations. Hospital staff failed to detect a single pseudopatient, and instead believed that all of the pseudopatients exhibited symptoms of ongoing mental illness. Several were confined for months. All were forced to admit to having a mental illness and agree to take antipsychotic drugs as a condition of their release.
The second part involved asking staff at a psychiatric hospital to detect non-existent "fake" patients. No fake patients were sent, yet the staff falsely identified large numbers of ordinary patients as impostors.
The study concluded, "It is clear that we cannot distinguish the sane from the insane in psychiatric hospitals" and also illustrated the dangers of dehumanization and labeling in psychiatric institutions.
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As the above excerpt shows that Psychology is not a proper Science, the following video thoroughly exposes the true purpose of it to be control of the population. And that, at its top most levels, it is actually the eugenics program.
This video is in ten parts. It is very detailed, names names, and provides documented evidence as proof. If anyone is surprised by this, it is because of the covert manner in which Psychology and Psychiatrics has operated over the years. They are very, very sneaky.
When one segment ends, you can click on the next in the lower part of the video box. They are numbered, and the next one will always be the second from the left.
I don't think Psychology/iatry is interested in providing any truly Scientific evidence of LRLs or dowsing, whether they are a psychic phenomenon or not.
It was suggested that, since Science hasn't been able to explain dowsing or LRLs, that it would be up to Psychology to do that.
My contention was that Psychology would not be a suitable source for a real explanation, because Psychology isn't a real Science. That is, it might me called a science by those who practice and promote it, but it is not done Scientifically. Big difference there!
As some have often requested, I will back up my statements with the following---
This is an excerpt from the Rosenhan experiment, Wikipedia
The Rosenhan experiment was a famous experiment into the validity of psychiatric diagnosis conducted by psychologist David Rosenhan in 1973. It was published in the journal Science under the title "On being sane in insane places." The study is considered an important and influential criticism of psychiatric diagnosis.
Rosenhan's study was done in two parts. The first part involved the use of healthy associates or "pseudopatients" who briefly simulated auditory hallucinations in an attempt to gain admission to 12 different psychiatric hospitals in five different states in various locations in the United States. All were admitted and diagnosed with psychiatric disorders. After admission, the pseudopatients acted normally and told staff that they felt fine and had not experienced any more hallucinations. Hospital staff failed to detect a single pseudopatient, and instead believed that all of the pseudopatients exhibited symptoms of ongoing mental illness. Several were confined for months. All were forced to admit to having a mental illness and agree to take antipsychotic drugs as a condition of their release.
The second part involved asking staff at a psychiatric hospital to detect non-existent "fake" patients. No fake patients were sent, yet the staff falsely identified large numbers of ordinary patients as impostors.
The study concluded, "It is clear that we cannot distinguish the sane from the insane in psychiatric hospitals" and also illustrated the dangers of dehumanization and labeling in psychiatric institutions.
-----
As the above excerpt shows that Psychology is not a proper Science, the following video thoroughly exposes the true purpose of it to be control of the population. And that, at its top most levels, it is actually the eugenics program.
This video is in ten parts. It is very detailed, names names, and provides documented evidence as proof. If anyone is surprised by this, it is because of the covert manner in which Psychology and Psychiatrics has operated over the years. They are very, very sneaky.
When one segment ends, you can click on the next in the lower part of the video box. They are numbered, and the next one will always be the second from the left.
I don't think Psychology/iatry is interested in providing any truly Scientific evidence of LRLs or dowsing, whether they are a psychic phenomenon or not.
aarthrj3811
Gold Member
Or could it be that science has no interest in Dowsing and LRL’s..or would Psychology have any interest ? In fact Dr Betz preformed a 10 year study on Dowsing so that only leaves the scientific study of LRL’s..Way behind the me boy..
http://twm.co.nz/dowsing_jse_com.html
http://www.water-diviner.com/articles3.htm
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_a_water_dowser_work
EE THr
Silver Member
artie---
That's wonderful news!
So what was his explanation of how or why it works?
aarthrj3811 said:
That's wonderful news!
So what was his explanation of how or why it works?
aarthrj3811
Gold Member
He just proved that Dowsing works in a 10 year study of water drilling..the Dowsers were 96% accurate and the professionals were 30% correct..the only ones that do not understand Dowsing are all skeptics…Art
EE THr
Silver Member
EE THr said:aarthrj3811 said:
That's wonderful news!
So what was his explanation of how or why it works?
aarthrj3811 said:
Knock, knock, knock. Hello? Artie? Is anyone home in there?
Hint: The words in red are for emphasis, meaning that they are the subject of the comment or question.
Wow....
aarthrj3811
Gold Member
Because we don’t need to know the explanation of how or why it works…We are happy that it does and we can find treasure…Art
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