The Lost Mines of the Desert - Part II: The Lost Arch Diggings

[pegleglooker]

Ola Oro,
If you look at reply #6 you will see a pix of the arch with John Hilton inside. Does this look like your arch ? According to the article they found the arch and ruins of a 2 room cabin just like you said. So I MUST agree that it is the same arch.... You found the mine where they didn't ( or chose not to say ), so it " appears " that it is the same mine....

PLL

 

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[Oroblanco]

5th!!!!!!! Special pleading!
Oroblanco

 

[pegleglooker]

5th!!!!!!! Special pleading!
Oroblanco

LOL!!!! Oro, the reason I asked you is because the picture of your arch ( from the magazine article ) looks different than the one above. Yours looks " fatter ", and I don't know of a reason a arch would ..... grow ?? The only thing I could come up with, is the you may have come in from the opposite side. So I ask ( or plead ) if you saw the cabin ruins first.... or did you see the arch first ?? In other words did you come up to the ruins and then " happen " to see the arch ?? Or did you see the arch and on the downside notice the ruins

PLL

 

[Oroblanco]

HOLA mi amigo Pegleglooker,

Pegleglooker wrote

Oro, the reason I asked you is because the picture of your arch ( from the magazine article ) looks different than the one above. Yours looks " fatter ", and I don't know of a reason a arch would ..... grow ?? The only thing I could come up with, is the you may have come in from the opposite side. So I ask ( or plead ) if you saw the cabin ruins first.... or did you see the arch first ?? In other words did you come up to the ruins and then " happen " to see the arch ?? Or did you see the arch and on the downside notice the ruins

Sheesh you are going to corner me yet amigo! I can say that we spotted the arch first, and that you can only make it out from ONE direction, when you view it from other directions it blends into the hillside extremely well. From the arch, you can see the rock walls or what is left of them. The mine is within "sight" of the ruins, but invisible. From the mine, you can see both the arch and the ruins. I hope I have not said too much now, hate to have that cast iron frying pan bounce off my thick-skulled noggin! <Good cast iron cookware is very expensive you know! >

I think the arch they are shown with is a different natural arch, yet supposedly there is only one natural arch in those mountains so...? I do see that they are downhill of it, which is a different angle.
Oroblanco

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Oro: my esteemed friend, I do have a suggestion S H A D D U P ! he he Seriously this wouldn't be the first time that an author used another similar setting for her/his story hint, I don't think that 'they' were at the actual point, but BETH was.

Rose, Dobie and others, certainly were fabricating of actually being at Tayopa for example he he

As for the building, many hill people construct their home with two square rooms facing each other, but separated by the same distance as the rooms are square, then span the facing area with a roof. this in effect gives a cooler room between them for cooking, visiting etc. One of the orig rooms generally serves as a storage space, while the other is for sleeping.

Naturally the spanning roof will be the first to go. after the building is abandoned.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[pegleglooker]

hey gang,
I thought you might find these pix interesting....

PLL

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Oro....Look familiar ​

 

[Oroblanco]

5th!


As an aside, yes that does look familiar - is that from Conrotto's book? Thank you in advance,
Oroblanco

 

[pegleglooker]

Ola Senor Oro,
Yes ole pal, it is from Conrotto's book which in reality is from Desert magazine ( Conrotto's book was simply a collection of his Desert Magazine stories ). But, I also have another pix for you to reminisce with... And maybe you might let a " tidbit " of info loose
< snicker >

PLL

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[Oroblanco]

I thought I had seen that one before.

Mi compadre Pegleglooker wrote

I also have another pix for you to reminisce with... And maybe you might let a " tidbit " of info loose

The saguaro may have been in sight of the mine at one time, but when Mrs O and I were there, no saguaros were anywhere near the site. Possibly cut down, dug up and stolen maybe? I don't know, but that particular clue will not help much today. (Like some of the clues for the Lost Dutchman mine, gone.)

Oroblanco

 

[Oroblanco]

Pegleglooker wrote

I think the question is... is where is this gem field ?

If you find that, you will be VERY close! Do you own any good rockhounding books? You never know what you might find tucked in there in a book written for a very different set of folks, the ones who hunt for pretty stones.

Just my opinion of course, but I think it pays for a lost mine hunter to know some prospecting techniques, basic geology and yep even rockhounding. Sometimes finding a piece of hematite will tell you more than finding carved Spanish treasure signs!
Oroblanco

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Still thunking>

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[The Son]

Oro
I hate to hit an old thread, but I may have some info on the arc/arch mine. If you see this please email me at [email protected]

Thanks
The Son