ok here we go,bear with me,its a long one(thats what she said,sorry i'm a goof)full of i said,he said.if i'm off here or there please feel free to correct me.normaly the ccfp(forest preserve)opens b4 8o am,the gates didn't open till about 8:30,which was odd(but now makes sense)we finalyy got in and did a quick "meet & greet" and got the guys out by 9:00am or so,at the time i did a count of 22 people(i could be off by 1 or 2).me'n murph stuck around to wait for last minuters(lowbatts & mayo and a few others)which was fine cause i didn't plan on too much digging anyway.about 9:15 or 9:30am the forest police(fp) shows and says they got a call about the hunt warning them about us(thats why the gates weren't open till later i'm guessing).he says we're not allowed to hunt "Chippawa"(bad spelling i'm sure)from what i understood its an indain burial ground just north of where the camp is.he said someone had called the ccfp HR dept(who knew they had one)and then it got bumped to the the conservation society.i tell him we're at the boyscout camp not the indian burial ground and that at least 3 clubs have digs there,all this time i'm telling him i'm not trying to be an a$$hole about this but we're allowed to hunt the ccfps(side note,the cop was ok,hes just doing his job under orders from his boss)now he says its under discussion about changing the rules for cook county about mding.thats fine if its under discussion BUT until that actually happens and it becomes fact and is posted for all to see,it just dosen't matter,since its still"in discussions"and again tell him i need to see some kind of papewrwork before i pull the guys in.at this point i'm still telling him politely i'm not trying to be an ass,and hes telling me the same,hes just doing what hes been told(i even invited him to come join us for lunch).he asks me to bring the guys in again or hes going to go into the woods and get them himself,i tell him all the guys have headphones on and that there not going to hear a phone so now he start walking towards Devon Ave(you have to cross the street to get to the camp)he got as far as the street and then came back(i'm guessing he didn't want to get his shiny shoes and creased pants dirty by going in the woods)he gets in his squad car and says to keep trying to call them in.before he leave i ask him to just give us till lunch(another 1 1/2 hrs)and all the guys will be back...nope.maybe 20 minutes later he cruises back and asks again if i got a hold of anybody,again even tho i tried really really really hard.nope ok now keep in mind that i've told him my BIL(Brother in law is a sargent there at the woods)but its his day off and i thow the name at him,he says that normally thats his supervisor,but this time i've already called my wife to call him an ask whats what,well he can't help cause its been pushed up the ladder so far cause of that single phone call and that they've already called him at home.the cop also now tell me that not only are we not allowed to dig but we can't have large groups going out together,i ask him whats considered a "large group"he has no answer,just shrugs and again says hes just doing his job.well again ya gotta give me more that that,first its no hunting and now no large groups,which is it no groups or hunting,at this point i even think they're just reaching for anything but have nothing to back it up,i asked him to have his supervisor come back for lunch with us and show me some kind of documentation.he drives away and i only see him drive by one last time without stopping,i figure they couldn't back any of this up so they had to leave it alone.as far as bullhorn,i never saw a single one,that not saying he didn't pull up around Dee rd or Higgens and use one,i myself never saw one at all.last count i did we had 26 people,you need a permit for over 25,so i'm am guilty of that,i just never thought it that the hunt would turn out so big ,next time i will get all the proper permits...ok now i'll get preachy,first i'm taking responsibilty,don't be blaming treasurefiend,it was me and me alone,my names on the original post so if anybody has a problem come to me and i'm directing this at anybody whos lurking or watching or some tnetter with a bad attitude,personlly i don't care,all of our hunts are on the up & up,nothing illegal.when we started this non-club a few years ago,this i just what i wanted,a group of like minded guys who enjoy the same hobby,no clubs dues,no meetings,just digging.if the CCFP really want to improve the woods for everybody, diggers(who provide a huge service by cleaning up the area of trash and what not)and families,how about doing something about the the freaks in the woods( i mean the guys with babyseats in the back of the family van,crusing the woods for a "quickie")i don't have kids and even if i did there no way i'd let them venture off to see any crap like that.sick --deleted--s,certainly more of a threat of we will ever be...your right Lowbatts,i can't get off the grid like you said so i removed that post.the whole point of what we're trying to do is to bring us together and dig,trade info and just have fun if we start going underground the idea is just lost,how many guys have joined up in the last year cause of our posts showing who and what we are?well take a good look and the pics and vids of our hunts and you'll see.like Murph said we'll never stop hosting these hunts.again for all those watching and lurking,grow a pair and deal with me directly if ya have a problem.and again thanks all you guys who have joined our little(big?) non club.this is what i wanted when this started and i glad its finally come to be.sorry to be long winded but it needed to be said also since we're not sure who the rat is theres no point in pointing fingers but don't forget we on the radar now...also i'm open sunday for some digging,whos in and where?...lowbatts,suggestions?..Nicky P,your always welcome shag your a$$ down here for the spring hunt...APRIL!,theres always extra on the grill