Thanksgiving Day Hunt – Two Early Coppers

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Today is Thanksgiving Day here in Canada and I decided to hit a site I first detected in 2017. The farmer keeps the crop rotations pretty tight on this 100-acre site, so I only have a small window of opportunity between the bean or corn harvest and the winter wheat being planted. The red 'X' on the left is where the house stood and the 'X' on the right is where the barn sat. My first coin find was the 'holed' 1812 'Tiffin' (1832) Halfpenny. When I first received permission to this site the farmer told me that the site had been detected numerous times before by another detectorist. :sadsmiley:

This site is absolutely carpeted with iron from the top of a small rise where the house stood for over 100’ east to where I feel the barn was located. I have learned to detect this sit with slow shoulder width swings and listen for the faint high tones in between the iron. My next coin find hit at a solid loud ‘97’ from every direction, all I could think was “more large flat iron”. To my surprise out popped an 1852 U.C. One Penny. :thumbsup:

1812 Lower Canada, Tiffen Halfpenny Token
"Nowhere in British North America did the private copper tokens issued by merchants and others have a more fascinating evolutionary history than in Lower Canada - now Quebec. In the 1820s and 1830s, trade in Montreal, the colony's commercial centre, created a strong demand for coinage. As coins were often in short supply, privately produced tokens filled the void. Tokens were not legal tender and their circulation was against the law. However, this was little deterrent at a time when legal coins were scarce. The first private coppers were heavy pieces, about the same weight as the penny and halfpenny coins they supplemented.

However, by the 1830s the tokens were barely half the weight of the official coins and, at times, were so numerous that people would no longer accept them. Various tricks were therefore resorted to in order to make their circulation possible. One interesting approach was to copy the designs of tokens that had previously been of heavy weight and had enjoyed wide circulation. In 1832 a Montreal grocer named Tiffin issued copper halfpenny tokens. They bore the date 1812 and were imitations of much heavier pieces produced twenty years earlier. The obverse carried a bust of King George III surrounded by a wreath of oak leaves and acorns and the figure of a seated woman representing Commerce was the design on the reverse. The success of Tiffin's venture seems to have encouraged the production, in 1837, of another series of tokens of the "Bust and Commerce" design which were also dated 1812. In the latter case, however, the pieces were crudely engraved and were struck in brass, a less expensive metal than pure copper."

Thanks very much for looking!
Dave
 

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I do apologize for the delay in getting back to everyone on your posts, I've been working in Alberta all week. :cool:


Nice hunt, Dave. Happy belated Thanksgiving to you.
Hey buddy, nice to hear from you! :hello:
Thanks very much for your post, hope you're having a good fall.
Dave



Well Dave I always like reading your posts. You never disappoint. You always seem to find interesting pieces. Some excellent saves. Congrats

Thank you for your compliments and your post Hawks. :thumbsup:
This is one of the most gratifying hobbies I've had... except for when I was younger and I used to collect girlfriends.:laughing7:

Seriously though, all you need to do is take the time to do some research and talk to the local farmers.
Dave


nice site & great hunt, nice old coppers & relics, great pictures as always, congrats on the saves & HH
Thanks for your post and support Inspector. :occasion14:
As we all know, it takes time to put together a readable post, but adding lots of pics helps. :laughing7:
Dave


Great finds, great scenery, and thanks for the history about the half penny token! Happy Canadian Thanksgiving to you! :thumbsup:

Thanks very much for your support Nick.
Half the fun of this hobby is researching what we find and learning about it's impact on our history.

Best of luck to you in CT,
Dave



Dave, another incredible outing, storytelling, and finds. Surely made for a very Happy Thanksgiving:hello2:

Thanks very much my friend, I appreciate you acknowledging the effort I put into my posts. :thumbsup:

Best of luck to you,
Dave



Great work as usual dave....fantastic finds !! Congrats....and happy thanks giving !!

Thank you Bart, this is the kind of 'work' that I love to do. :laughing7:
Dave



Fantastic finds and another amazing job of cleaning/restoration! Well done!
Thank you for your post blackiyto... welcome to Tnet from Toronto! :hello:
Dave
 

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