Templar Research

[franklin]

Knight's Templar have been around for over 900 years and they are still around. Some is lost due to things like the "Black Plague", wars or even shipwrecks at sea. But they survived. Under ground tunnels and caverns are being discovered all over Europe and England where they hid out and went underground. They changed their names a few times to avoid the Catholic Church but they survived. If not for the Knight's Templars during the Pheasants Revolt in England we would not have Christianity or even the freedom of other religions. I would like to thank one of my ancestors who made all of this possible during the revolt. Around the same time, the British changed their national language from French to English to denounce the King of France and the Pope of the Cahtolic Church. And yes the Kingsington Ruin Stones are authentic as well as other relics, signs and diaries that prove the Knight's Templar were in this continent hundreds of years before Chris Columbus.

 

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[Terry Soloman]

The families are still around, and laugh quite frequently at today's TV shows.

 

[Mother Superior]

The text itself, for one. It uses grammar and lexeme that weren't in use until hundreds of years after the stone was alleged to have been carved.

Actually this turned out to be false, certain characters on the stone had not yet been discovered in situ on the old continent when the stone was found, which created this false sentiment that these characters were pure forgery.
Nevertheless not that many years ago they the discovered that at aproximately the same time as the KRS is alleged to have been carved, most if not all of these characters were in use on the island of Götland in Sweden.
I don't have the source at hand right now since I'm at work but I will edit my reply later to add it.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Then, explain to me how the first 65 letters of the First Book of Moses, "Genesis" can give today's location of the "Ark of the Covenant of God" The location was not in existence and had not even been thought of in the plans of building the city until some 200 years after the KJV being published in 1611. You can also use the first 65 letters of the Geneva Bible and it still works out to today's location. I have found a lot of other information that scholars would die to see but I am not ready to reveal yet.

Wishful thinking? Active imagination?

Now you are going to tell us that city is Washington DC and the location is someplace like under the Tomb of the Unknown so you can't dig it up. But it's proven [in your mind] beyond all doubt.

And I am going to say "pull the other one - it has bells on."

 

[franklin]

Wishful thinking? Active imagination?

Now you are going to tell us that city is Washington DC and the location is someplace like under the Tomb of the Unknown so you can't dig it up. But it's proven [in your mind] beyond all doubt.

And I am going to say "pull the other one - it has bells on."

No, actually it is in the Tomb of General George Washington.

The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was after the Civil War all their body parts from all over the country.

 

[lokiblossom]

And you guys thought I pulled things out of a hat!

Cheers, Loki

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

No, actually it is in the Tomb of General George Washington.

The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was after the Civil War all their body parts from all over the country.

In Mount Vernon, Virginia? That is where President/General Washington is buried. So, someone in 600 BC arranged those 65 Hebrew letters (actually fewer - the Hebrew alphabet has less letters), in code, to say: "Build ye an empty burial vault in lands unknown and lay the arc beneath it but put not the remains of the first President therein, his widow not wishing such so forget ye it."

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

And you guys thought I pulled things out of a hat!

Cheers, Loki

Hat? I don't think that was a hat trick. ;-)

 

[franklin]

In Mount Vernon, Virginia? That is where President/General Washington is buried. So, someone in 600 BC arranged those 65 Hebrew letters (actually fewer - the Hebrew alphabet has less letters), in code, to say: "Build ye an empty burial vault in lands unknown and lay the arc beneath it but put not the remains of the first President therein, his widow not wishing such so forget ye it."

It's a longlonglong story. I will tell it some time.

George Washington died in 1799. He was placed in the new tomb in 1837. What is 18 times 37 of course.....So now you understand how to find everything.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Ahhh. But what is 17 times 99? 1683 - the year Izaak Walton was born, and he became known as the father of sport fishing . . . a pursuit which is also know to be populated with tellers of "fish stories"

 

[Stretch Da Truth]

So Irving donated a trailer home to OI for research. Looks like it will be the home for all those boxes of papers from Zena's home.
She had a tough time trying to string together something that made sense. Do you think Rick is gonna grab the bull by the horns and make sense of all the stuff and come up with a new Crazy Templar theory?
Sometimes I wish they would have pushed him in one of the holes to make the 7th one... then Marty could find some treasure!!!
He is the mushy soft one of the cast.

Maybe in the boxes are cast dental records they could match up with the carvings in the prison across the pond? Not a bad idea right?
Cross, Templar.
Box tunnels, Templar.
Crossbolt, Templar.
Nolans cross, Templar.

You guys getting the picture yet?
Even Gary said the T word! Templar baby!
That is what season 6 will be about. Can't wait till they do the Cove... Totally Templar!

 

[franklin]

The Cremona document that Zena mentioned is the missing link to the puzzle I have needed. I can now put it all together. If Rick needs someone to go over all of the Zena material, I would make myself available. I probably have everything else that she had but not photos and the documents. But I do now know the whole complete story. If they want to know what happened to the treasure if they can not find it in one of the caverns below?? Well I am ready.

I will be putting all of my material into about ten different volumes for research purposes before getting them copyrighted and printed.

The game is just about over.

 

[lokiblossom]

It's a longlonglong story. I will tell it some time.

George Washington died in 1799. He was placed in the new tomb in 1837. What is 18 times 37 of course.....So now you understand how to find everything.

1837 is the year my home of Michigan became a state and I think it has 666 counties, 18 times 37, wow. The Templar Order was disbanded in 1312, 13 times 12 is 156, now I do understand how to find everything.

Cheers, Loki

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Scott Wolter Answers: Oak Island 1179 Map

Scott Wolter has already worked with the late Zena on that. Though I understand he is "on the outs" with the Oak Island cast.

 

[franklin]

Scott Wolter Answers: Oak Island 1179 Map

Scott Wolter has already worked with the late Zena on that. Though I understand he is "on the outs" with the Oak Island cast.

Their loss.

 

[franklin]

In Mount Vernon, Virginia? That is where President/General Washington is buried. So, someone in 600 BC arranged those 65 Hebrew letters (actually fewer - the Hebrew alphabet has less letters), in code, to say: "Build ye an empty burial vault in lands unknown and lay the arc beneath it but put not the remains of the first President therein, his widow not wishing such so forget ye it."

No, actually about 1445 BC would be more accurate plus 2018 would be about 3463 years ago when God spoke to Moses. Do not worry about the translations in all the different languages God makes it all work out for us.

 

[A2coins]

the davinci code leads to oak Island lol

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Many Biblical scholars would disagree with that date. Archeologists as well (Pentateuch says the Hebrews moved over the Jordan into Canaan immediately after Moses died - and there is no archeological evidence there older than 600 BC or thereabouts).

But if, as you claim, it is all manipulated anyway to form a code it hardly matters.


The Book of Job has been kicking around maybe 100 years longer (earliest fragments 7th Century BC +/-). The first book of the Bible by date. Possibly written by Moses and not about Moses.

 

[Raparee]

An opinion, there are others who later have found connections to 14th century grammar! You have to read the whole story which is way more involved than a Wikipedia article. To the latitude coincidence there was a similar stone discovered West of Kensington, somewhere in the present day Dakotas by a french priest which was destroyed in a french cathedral in World War II. In my own very humble opinion the KRS is doubtful, but I still reserve judgement for now! If it does prove authentic it is not Templar of this I would be sure. By 1362 any Templars that escaped France would have been too old to walk to Minnesota.

Cheers, Loki

From the Archaeological Fantasies blog"

Firstly, the language and the lack of case sensitive modifiers used on the stone was not what one would expect from 14th century Norse. Certain words in the inscription were not in use at that time (Wahlgren 1958, Fridley1979:152, Fagan 2006:119, Williams 2012:13), however, those same words were common to the area that Ohman’s friend, Sven Fogelblad, was from (Fridley1979:153). Fogelbald was an itinerant teacher and former minister originally from an area of Sweden well known for having lots of authentic runic inscriptions lying around, and who had known and apparently studied under Claes J. Ljungstrom, himself a widely known and prominent runologist (Fridley1979:153).

Also suspect were certain runic symbols that were not known to the Futharks (the name of the Runic Alphabets) in use in the 14th century, but again these were know to Fogelbald and apparently were rather specialized to his particular region of Sweden (Wahlgren 1958, Fridley1979:152, Fagan 2006:119, Williams 2012:13).

At first blush there appears to be several versions of the Futharks at use on the stone’s inscription. However, sometime in 2004 it was suggested that the runes mimic those in the notes of an 1883 journeyman named Edward Larsson. Honestly, the only place I can find reference to this is on the Wiki and their reference is in Swedish. My Swedish is not good enough to read a whole paper, sorry. In the same paragraph the runic inscription is tied to the Knights Templar, so, take that how you will (I call it a red flag.)

Based on all this, Blegen put forward the probability that the stone had been carved by two separate individuals working together and that several individuals were involved in the hoax beside Ohman and Gran, including Fogelblad, and Andrew Anderson, Ohman’s neighbor (Fridley1979:153)."

...and...

"Blegen focused particularly on an interview done by Dr. Paul Carson, Jr. in 1976 with Frank Walter Gran about Frank’s father, John P. Gran (Blegen 1968, Fridley1976:154). The interview centered around John confessing that he and Ohman had carved and hidden the stone as a prank against “people who were really educated (Fridley1979:154).” This was significant because it was suggested that the inscriptions were carved by two different individuals, one right handed and one left, and John was left-handed (Fridley1979, Blegen 1968). "

 

[franklin]

Take the Cremona Map and use St. Genevieve as the Prime Meridian, the map is dead on with the latitude and about three miles off on the longitude. Not bad for 12th Century navigators.