Sweet ornate sunflower flat button from civil war site | tell me what it is please

[SirWalterRaleigh]

I recovered this yesterday at the big Civil War in Raleigh yesterday. I think it's an old flat button.
It's the coolest one I have ever found. Can anyone tell me exactly what it is or can anyone give me a date on this?

I love it it's awesome.

I hope everyone is having a great weekend and out there swinging their metal detectors and finding lots of treasures.

As always thanks for stopping by and digging my digs!

 

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[mihmar79]

Dont know what is it, bit its prety nice gz !

 

[FreeBirdTim]

How big is it? Is it brass? Looks like it was riveted to something. Might be a horse rosette, but I'm not sure.

 

[SirWalterRaleigh]

How big is it? Is it brass? Looks like it was riveted to something. Might be a horse rosette, but I'm not sure.

It's about the size of a quarter and it rang up as copper

 

[trapperart]

Nice find congrats

 

[can]

nice find

 

[SirWalterRaleigh]

Thanks folks

 

[FISH BONE]

Nice,

 

[SirWalterRaleigh]

I've been trying to research this thing for the past few days and cannot find anything like it online. If anyone has any ideas on where to point me at I would really appreciate it

 

[parsonwalker]

We sometimes find variants of flower buttons on the battlefield and there is a strong chance it was Confederate worn. They often didn't have "official" uniforms. Well done!

 

[SirWalterRaleigh]

Great to know! Thanks for the information. Confederates surely camped here, as did Union soldiers as the confederate soldiers retreated toward Durham.

 

[CRUSADER]

We sometimes find variants of flower buttons on the battlefield and there is a strong chance it was Confederate worn. They often didn't have "official" uniforms. Well done!

Possible, but that would have to have been using a 35 year old button.

 

[WHADIFIND]

Possible, but that would have to have been using a 35 year old button.

Easy enough to understand. Buttons were a commodity that were not thrown away. They were kept in ye olde sewing kit until one was needed. My own mother had buttons that were a 100 years old in hers. Sometimes, certain ones, become old friends/keepsakes. But, necessity wins out. They weren't kept to "keep".

 

[joeyfresh]

I know what it is...it's a sweet ornate sunflower button [emoji4]

 

[parsonwalker]

Possible, but that would have to have been using a 35 year old button.

How do you date it so precisely Crusader? I've often wondered about that when there's no backmark to positively ID. (But then, I have the same doubts about Native American points dating. I think some points MUST have been made much later than dated, just maybe made by a less skilled flint knapper). Anyway, just to add more to the flower button/Civil War connection, a hastily dug shallow battlefield grave was unearthed about 6 years ago in central Virginia. The digger got a strong signal which turned out to be a Confederate cartridge box with 18 complete "buck & Ball" rounds. The bones in the grave were co-mingled with (drum roll please) Flower buttons.

We also know from soldier diaries that some southern boys went to war carrying Grandpa's FIFTY year old flintlock musket from the war of 1812. That was before the South had a chance to import all those Tower muskets from you guys across the pond. One Confederate soldier wrote about Bull Run (Manassas) "The yankees retreated in such a hurry, they dropped many of their Springfield rifles and fled. I was one of many of our boys who picked one up and kept it, along with many rounds of ammunition for it. Needless to say, I left my old .69 cal smoothbore in that field.

The abundance of .69 cal bullets found on early war battlefields further attests to the validity of the CSA often utilizing technology that was decades old, because they didn't have a sophisticated supply line, or the factories to build it. Heck, a 35 year old button was pretty much top-of-the-line RECENT for many of those guys.

That's what I have to say about that . . . from the trenches.

 

[Garrett424]

No help on the ID but it's definitely a great button.

 

[SirWalterRaleigh]

How do you date it so precisely Crusader? I've often wondered about that when there's no backmark to positively ID. (But then, I have the same doubts about Native American points dating. I think some points MUST have been made much later than dated, just maybe made by a less skilled flint knapper). Anyway, just to add more to the flower button/Civil War connection, a hastily dug shallow battlefield grave was unearthed about 6 years ago in central Virginia. The digger got a strong signal which turned out to be a Confederate cartridge box with 18 complete "buck & Ball" rounds. The bones in the grave were co-mingled with (drum roll please) Flower buttons.

We also know from soldier diaries that some southern boys went to war carrying Grandpa's FIFTY year old flintlock musket from the war of 1812. That was before the South had a chance to import all those Tower muskets from you guys across the pond. One Confederate soldier wrote about Bull Run (Manassas) "The yankees retreated in such a hurry, they dropped many of their Springfield rifles and fled. I was one of many of our boys who picked one up and kept it, along with many rounds of ammunition for it. Needless to say, I left my old .69 cal smoothbore in that field.

The abundance of .69 cal bullets found on early war battlefields further attests to the validity of the CSA often utilizing technology that was decades old, because they didn't have a sophisticated supply line, or the factories to build it. Heck, a 35 year old button was pretty much top-of-the-line RECENT for many of those guys.

That's what I have to say about that . . . from the trenches.

That's really awesome information, thanks to everyone commenting. I, too, would like to know how crusader possibly dated this. Is there a book I need to purchase?