Street tear-out produces 1700s!

[Diggin Dude]

Street tear-out produces 1700's!

I've been looking at a street tear-out near me for about 2-months now and finally decided to hit it, and I'm glad I did. I found my first coins from the 1700's. One has been identified with the help of DoninBrewster as being a George II "young head" version, made between 1729 and 1739. The believe this one is 1736, it's hard to see the date, but I believe that is what I see when I move it around.

The second coin is in worse shape, all I can make out is the back of a head shown in the pictures and the other side is a real mess. Both coins were found together.

The coins are in very poor condition, I wonder if I should try cleaning them with electrolysis or would that destroy them altogether?

Also found a large slug or bullet mushroomed, a rim fire casing, and a single ring bullet of some kind. The penny is just in the photo for size reference.

 

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[Iron Patch]

I am quite certain I can see the "nose" of the right bust. Other wise I wouldn't have stuck my nose out.

yep, it looks to be there, faint, but there.

 

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[Don in SJ]

The bust of the William copper to me looks like it is the Obverse of a Type 1 or 2 William copper, making it most likely 1695-98 with a slight possibility of being a 1699. Still a 1600 William. Compare the photos, ribbon shape, and head position to edge of coin. Could be wrong but I cannot see any details proving to my ole eyes it is a W&M.

 

[Diggin Dude]

Here are a couple of more pictures of the second coin from different angles maybe this will help it's so worn and hard to see

 

[Don in SJ]

I think this comparison photo I put together should show it is a William III not a W&M. It is the type of Obverse only used on Type 1 and Type 2 versions, which was not the later version used on the 1700 era Williams. So, it is a 1695-98 most likely but could be a 1699 but less likely.

 

[Iron Patch]

I think this comparison photo I put together should show it is a William III not a W&M. It is the type of Obverse only used on Type 1 and Type 2 versions, which was not the later version used on the 1700 era Williams. So, it is a 1695-98 most likely but could be a 1699 but less likely.

Yeah that Rick guy doesn't know squat!

 

[Rick (Nova Scotia)]

Well Don that's why second opinions are a good thing.

OK I was wrong, and I have been before, no problem admitting that.
I didn't look close enough, because I "thought" i saw something, the extra nose, which is obviously not there, just a corrosion "trick". I jumped to conclusion.

Funny story, I did the same thing on a find I made. Before the sun came up, and quite dark I found the center out of a 2 dollar coin, I was sure I could see St George slayin the dragon, and thought I had a half sovereign...my buddy with better eyesight said "wishfull thinking"

 

[Iron Patch]

Well Don that's why second opinions are a good thing.

OK I was wrong, and I have been before, no problem admitting that.
I didn't look close enough, because I "thought" i saw something, the extra nose, which is obviously not there, just a corrosion "trick". I jumped to conclusion.

Funny story, I did the same thing on a find I made. Before the sun came up, and quite dark I found the center out of a 2 dollar coin, I was sure I could see St George slayin the dragon, and thought I had a half sovereign...my buddy with better eyesight said "wishfull thinking"

I didn't look because I was too lazy.

 

[collector01]

Congrats on your first 1700 and 1600s coins Hope it's the first of many for ya! Glad everybody on here are getting to hunt the street tear outs. A local town near me had a street tear out and some good coins were found the first couple days until the local Arcs got the town to close it to metal detecting, said they were messing it up lol then they paved it over

 

[Diggin Dude]

Thank you Don thank you Rick and everyone else for your efforts and success with identifying the coin. I appreciate all your help I'm very stoked and I found a coin from the 1600's and a coin from the 1700's.