strange thing ?

[mojjax]

I found this bottle hunting near an old cellar hole . It was sealed in side an old peanut butter jar with a rusty lid . The underside is leather . I think the metal is nickle plated brass . Any ideas ?
Thanks ,
Mojjax

 

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[trk5capt]

Its a shoulder scale for showing military status and stuff, no one recognized it?

Jake, I hate to disagree with you, but the Pic you posted are CW era Union Army enlisted Mans shoulder scales. The Soldiers hated them and discarded them early in the war for field use, still wore them occasionally on the dress uniform. The Pic strangething is a decoration from a western style saddle used for parades or shows.trk5capt...

 

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[Gypsy Heart]

I being a horsewoman , think that it is fancy dress horse tack...see inside the round part, on the back side of it...there is a bent post...this is what would attach it to the bridle...head piece.....kind of like a woman's earing does.
But lord knows I have been wrong before.....but it looks more samurai or Japanese style......
so my next guess is
Amazon Woman's earring!

 

[Kentucky Kache]

Horse decor, I would guess.

 

[beeper]

WHOA! between a armadillo tail to horse decor, your all wrong, it is the nose guard used on a Viking helmit. yep thats it!

 

[cheese]

It's a medeivil thong!

 

[Kentucky Kache]

It's a medeivil thong!

OUCH!

 

[Southcacalaky]

Don't know for sure, But I like it, HH Art...

 

[JakePhelps]

Your right! its not a shoulder scale, i looked real quik and i thought it was kinda squared off on oen end not long and pointed..also i didnt look at how it connected. Thanks for catching that! i gotta look at the pics more carefully :P

 

[Mr. Mark]

Hey guys, new to the forum here. Mojjax when I saw your photo of the strange item it rang a bell with me. It looks like the chinscales off of a turn of the century war helmet. There would be one on each side, and connect under the chin. I don't think it is German or Prussian however. The Piklehaube helmets had different type attachment points instead of just a thin post. However, the French version of the chinscales were connected to the helmet/hat with just a thin post like the one on the back of the rounded piece of your whats-it. I began to think about the way in which your item was found, and some things occured to me. 1) Such things would be valuable souveniers to whoever acquired them, thus it being sealed in a jar. 2) Being in a cellar hole, the era seems about correct (may be wrong on this) 3) The French chinscales of this era were made of nickel plated brass. 4) The number of "levels" of the scales is 14, just like yours. 5) The leather backing is a dead ringer, as another leather strap was worn underneath and this is what would actually contact the cheek/chin. 6) The small piece of leather at the end which is uncovered probably held a small buckle at one time. 7)The general pattern of the scales is also a dead ringer. 8) Based on your last picture with the item in your hand, the scale of the item seems about right. Anyway, just wanted to put in my two cents, and try and help you out. I've been trolling this awesome forum for about 2 months now, and decided to register. You guys seem like a really solid community and thats great. Sorry for the long winded first post and Good Luck!

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Welcome to the club,Mr Mark....we need more know- it -alls here...hahaha just teasing..we need everyone! The more people.... the more I can be prooved wrong on all my educated guesses.. ..Looking forward to more of your posts!.

 

[JakePhelps]

Wow that must be it! Welcome to the forum, you seem very knowledgable!

 

[trk5capt]

Mr. Mark, Welcome to the Forum. I Humbley Stand Corrected. trk5capt...

 

[Mr. Mark]

Hey Ya'll, Mark here again. I hope that I didn't come of as arrogant or pushy in any way. It certainly wasn't my intention. War artifacts are a hobby of mine and as I said, it just looked like it fits the bill. After all it could be just about anything. Being a new member I just wanted to clarify. If I can be of any help at all to any/all members here it would be my distinct pleasure to be involved. Thanks again, and happy hunting!

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Hey Ya'll, Mark here again. I hope that I didn't come of as arrogant or pushy in any way.? It certainly wasn't my intention.? War artifacts are a hobby of mine and as I said, it just looked like it fits the bill.? After all it could be just about anything.? Being a new member I just wanted to clarify.? If I can be of any help at all to any/all members here it would be my distinct pleasure to be involved.? Thanks again, and happy hunting!?

Hey Mark...you did not and I hope you know that I am just a smart a$$ 90 % of the time ,so if you think I was doing any more than good natured ribbing...then I do apologize. We more than welcome you to this site and will look forward to pounding you with questions........just dont be to thin skinned because we will eat you alive.......( okay...just teasing again!!!)

 

[beeper]

? You guys seem like a really solid community and thats great.

WELCOME MARK! This is one of the better sites for us dreamers, very little if no bashing at all here, not allowed, if it happens we have a GORILLA that walks on his knuckles that slaps us and straightens us out! ENJOY!

 

[trk5capt]

Hey Ya'll, Mark here again. I hope that I didn't come of as arrogant or pushy in any way.? It certainly wasn't my intention.? War artifacts are a hobby of mine and as I said, it just looked like it fits the bill.? After all it could be just about anything.? Being a new member I just wanted to clarify.? If I can be of any help at all to any/all members here it would be my distinct pleasure to be involved.? Thanks again, and happy hunting!?

Mark, Not at all, No matter How Long we Have Been at this, we all still Keep on Learning Something. Best of Luck. trk5capt...