Sterling silver "tube" with holes

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Re: Sterling silver "tube" with holes

Breezie said:
As stated above, during Victorian times people didn't bath but once a year, and generally the end of May was the alloted time. The term 'June Bride' came from the fact that most weddings where held in June because that was the closest to bath time. The reason the bride carried a bouquet of flowers was to help diffuse the body odor.

Sorry, but I call "BS."

The Saturday night bath was a 19th century institution.

Flowers are associated with fertility, and femininity. Notice the guys don't carry bouquets, but they usually sweat more, and avoid bathing? :tongue3: :laughing9:

In Victorian times, Christmas time was a popular time to get married.

These scent holders aren't because the wearer stinks... it's what is around them that they are trying not to smell... back in the day of rural America, and horses, not horseless carriages. :wink:
 

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Sorry, but I call "BS."

The Saturday night bath was a 19th century institution.

Flowers are associated with fertility, and femininity. Notice the guys don't carry bouquets, but they usually sweat more, and avoid bathing? :tongue3: :laughing9:

In Victorian times, Christmas time was a popular time to get married.

These scent holders aren't because the wearer stinks... it's what is around them that they are trying not to smell... back in the day of rural America, and horses, not horseless carriages. :wink:

Lucas, it's not BS; it's the real deal. Check out these direct copy/paste excerpts: (Sources are listed at the bottom.)
Cleanliness, like most of the transformations of the pre-Civil War period, was mainly a phenomenon of the larger towns and cities. Willima Alcott, the health reformer, estimated in 1850 that a quarter of New England's population bathed their whole bodies less than once a year, and the numbers of unwashed Americans in the south and western states must have been staggering (the girls at the Euphradian Academy in Rockingham, North Carolina, had to get special permission from their paretns to take a full bath.) But the people setting the pace - the prosperous urban families - had decided that cleanliness was, if not next to Godliness, at least a sign of gentility. By midcentury, every middle-class bedroom had a water pitcher and washbasin.

Still the concept of real head-to-toe bathing was slow to catch on. by 1860 there were only about 4,000 bathtubs in Boston, which had a population of 178,000. Washing generally didn't icnlude soap: people stood in tubs and rubbed themsleves with a wet sponge, followed by a brisk towelling. Some women boasted that they could take a complete bath in a carpeted room without spilling a drop. The idea of washing one's body was still so novel that people believed in waiting two hours after eating for even a sponge bath.'

Writing about the post-Civil War period, Gail Collins goes on:

'Wealthier families slowly acquired complete plumbing systems. Real bathtubs, a rarity before the Civil War, became more common, and in the 1870s the nation embarked on a long debate about the benefits of baths as opposed to standing on an oilcloth mat in front of a basin of water. Some experts derided the idea of bodily immersion in "zinc coffins" but once Americans had the chance to actually experience a hot bath, their cause was lost.'
Source(s):
'Down the Plughole, An Irreverent History of the Bath' by Steve Dobell
'America's Women: 400 years of Dolls, Drudges, Helpmates and Heroines' by Gail Collins
 

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Well spank my bottom and call me Charlie !!! Man you guys and gals never cease to amaze me :headbang: The wealth of knowledge here is incredible. Who needs an ecucation when there is Tnet. I honestly believe someone could manufacture something never before seen and someone on here would know what it is, or what it is used for. You can't slide one in one this group :notworthy:
 

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meangene21 said:
Well spank my bottom and call me Charlie !!! Man you guys and gals never cease to amaze me :headbang: The wealth of knowledge here is incredible. Who needs an ecucation when there is Tnet. I honestly believe someone could manufacture something never before seen and someone on here would know what it is, or what it is used for. You can't slide one in one this group :notworthy:

Yep,pretty good group of people here,and you wont find another place like it!!
 

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Breezie said:
Lucas, it's not BS; it's the real deal. Check out these direct copy/paste excerpts: (Sources are listed at the bottom.)

OK Breezie, gold stars on your homework! :notworthy: :notworthy:

Yes full bath tubs were rare, but they were washing. On the soap thing... most was used for washing clothes, and was pretty harsh, but people did use soap. Better food, clean water, and better living conditions started a population rise that helped make the industrial revolution possible.

Thanks for the quotes! :hello2:
 

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Thanks Lucas .. . .now our only concern is what poor soul is gonna go MD with Kuger since he only baths once a month! LOL :laughing7: Breezie


"It's not easy being green " Kermit
 

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Breezie said:
Thanks Lucas .. . .now our only concern is what poor soul is gonna go MD with Kuger since he only baths once a month! LOL :laughing7: Breezie


"It's not easy being green " Kermit

I ride alone :wink:
 

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One day when I was getting bored, bad weather, not feeling well, etc etc. I decided to see how wonderful the internet was, so I was curios about the history of modern day toilet paper. What an interesting " Paper Trail " I was about to " Go " on. This link is just for starters http://www.edinformatics.com/inventions_inventors/toilet_paper.htm .......NGE
 

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nowgittineverything said:
One day when I was getting bored, bad weather, not feeling well, etc etc. I decided to see how wonderful the internet was, so I was curios about the history of modern day toilet paper. What an interesting " Paper Trail " I was about to " Go " on. This link is just for starters http://www.edinformatics.com/inventions_inventors/toilet_paper.htm .......NGE
Wonder why they often kept a Sears Roebuck catalog in the outhouse?
 

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i was going to say some sort of fishing lure, but it looks like you have it figured out :thumbsup: give this one a green check mark!
 

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I couldnt find a reply saying if the tube opens, I was going to say its for making tea or dipping flavor into a drink maybe,
just a thought
Pro-
 

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Lucas said:
The Saturday night bath was a 19th century institution.
I think our bath day was Sunday (when I was a kid) but cant remember for sure.

I read about the Spanish explorers that stunk terribly. The American Indians thought they were disgusting.

reminds me of these but I agree, there has to be a way of opening the sachet to replenish the perfume.:
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,305316.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,320119.0.html
 

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Breezie said:
It was called a Tussy Mussy, and it looks to be Victorian, although it could be newer, and it's hard to tell without seeing it in person. A modern Tussy Mussy is basically a bouquet of flowers used by brides. As stated above, during Victorian times people didn't bath but once a year, and generally the end of May was the alloted time. The term 'June Bride' came from the fact that most weddings where held in June because that was the closest to bath time. The reason the bride carried a bouquet of flowers was to help diffuse the body odor.

Nice find, Breezie
I've found one of those original one's, will post a picture.
Robert.
 

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I do believe that this is a scent diffuser of some type. My only concern is that when it's dipped into the scent, that the "sponge" would leak liquid through the bottom holes and stain the wearers clothing.
This is just so everybody knows what a Tussy Mussy actually looks like:

Tussy Mussy
Definition: A Victorian-style bouquet where a small bouquet of flowers is carried in a metal vase specifically
designed to be carried. Often comes with a stand so that at the reception it can become a centerpiece.
 

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Its an unusual shape, with unevenly spaced holes and it appears to have a flat bottom. I would like to see more pics. Could the holes be homemade? How many holes total? Was the question answered as to whether it will open?

Where was the item found? Could it be dirt inside?

I have a similar shaped antique item but no holes, no chain. Mine opens and was for perfume. I can still smell it. That old perfume is a nasty smell lol.

BTW welcome to TN Jodi. :hello:
 

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I really think it is a homemade pencil plug type fishing lure. The holes would make it bubble like a wounded minnow trying to escape a BIG toothy fish, and the chain would act like a doubled wire leader for a BIG fishes teeth :cussing:.........NGE
 

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nowgittineverything said:
I really think it is a homemade pencil plug type fishing lure. The holes would make it bubble like a wounded minnow trying to escape a BIG toothy fish, and the chain would act like a doubled wire leader for a BIG fishes teeth :cussing:.........NGE
I actually have a fishing lure that exact shape, flat on the bottom, no holes. I think it was for catching Walleye. . Its not silver but it is very similar in shape.

I dont know why it would be on a double chain because it looks as if you would lose the fish if any one side broke. Plus there are no hooks or attachment points for hooks. BTW is the chain silver?
 

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I see that the chain is soldered on, maybe it was a favorite lure at one time, that the fisher person is memorializing (is that a word?) Hooking areas could have been polished off, after all, who would be dumb enough to leave the hooks attached...........YIKES!............NGE
 

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nowgittineverything said:
I see that the chain is soldered on, maybe it was a favorite lure at one time, that the fisher person is memorializing (is that a word?) Hooking areas could have been polished off, after all, who would be dumb enough to leave the hooks attached...........YIKES!............NGE
LOL I think we need some clearer pics. I didnt realize it was soldered. I cant see it. Are you using the Macro setting, Vodka? Does the chain have a jewelry type disconnect?
 

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