Solved: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

[marble]

This ring was made from a US coin dated 1899, but it doesn't look like the barber dime because you can see both eyes of the figure.

Could this have been made from another denomination coin?

-Nancy, who hopes someone can respond about this one...

 

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[fistfulladirt]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

Not sure, but has to be at least two-piece. Either way really nice ring!

 

[marble]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

The band is definitely not part of the coin. You can see where it was soldered to the coin part.

 

[DigginThePast]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

Certainly looks to be a Barber coin to me. Look above the 99 in the date and you can see part of the original design (pointed portion of the bust facing right). Also, the spacing between "STATES" and "OF" looks right.

Very cool piece!

edit to add: Yes, a Barber 10 cent piece.

 

[marble]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

Oh yes, I can see that lower jutting part of the neck!

 

[fistfulladirt]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

By two-piece, I mean the bust was added to the coin, maybe, maybe not.

 

[marble]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

The face was hammered out and there is a huge recess underneath. The face is split a little, too. I can see daylight through it. I don't think any material was added to the bust.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

Yep I think its a Liberty push out/ popout soldered to make a ring and heavily polished.


Heres a popout from a Barber dime found by a TN member.. Ill search for the old thread.



I have a gold plated popout face of Liberty myself from a 1981 half. Bottom pic an 1881.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

Heres a patent for one type. They can be made from any coin.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=ps...gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1#v=onepage&q&f=true




I never saw one made into a ring. Where did you obtain this from Nancy? Cool find.

 

[traderoftreasures]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

is that legal?

 

[fistfulladirt]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

is that legal?

Is melting silver legal? Yes, so I suppose defacing a silver coin is also legal.

 

[Broken knee]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

Heres a patent for one type. They can be made from any coin.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=ps...gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1#v=onepage&q&f=true






I never saw one made into a ring. Where did you obtain this from Nancy? Cool find.

Nice ID! BCH
BK

 

[marble]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

Excellent!! I found this at a flea market in Wheaton, IL.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

is that legal?

Is melting silver legal? Yes, so I suppose defacing a silver coin is also legal.

As long as its not a penny or a nickel. http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/rogers121706.html

 

[fistfulladirt]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

is that legal?

Is melting silver legal? Yes, so I suppose defacing a silver coin is also legal.

As long as its not a penny or a nickel. http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/rogers121706.html

AFIK, a silver penny or nickel was never minted, lol!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Was this made from an 1899 dime?

AFIK, a silver penny or nickel was never minted, lol!

Are you sure lol?

Sorry you are correct and I wasnt disagreeing with you about melting/defacing silver coins but I was just bringing it to Traders attention that its no longer legal to melt copper pennies or nickels. I dont know if melting US coinage was always legal. The old patent posted doesnt mention silver coins, only "metal discs".. And technically, I dont know either if the new penny/nickel law applies to wartime silver nickels.

I guess the relevant question would be- was defacing US coinage legal in the late 1800's?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

A quick search found this:

U.S. Title 18, Chapter 17, Section 331: Prohibits among other things, fraudulent alteration and mutilation of coins. This statue does not, however, prohibit the mutilation of coins if done without fraudulent intent if the mutilated coins are not used fraudulently.

STATUTE-
Whoever fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the mints of the United States, or any foreign coins which are by law made current or are in actual use or circulation as money within the United States; or Whoever fraudulently possesses, passes, utters, publishes, or sells, or attempts to pass, utter, publish, or sell, or brings into the United States, any such coin, knowing the same to be altered, defaced, mutilated, impaired, diminished, falsified, scaled, or lightened - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both

 

[fistfulladirt]

A quick search found this:

U.S. Title 18, Chapter 17, Section 331: Prohibits among other things, fraudulent alteration and mutilation of coins. This statue does not, however, prohibit the mutilation of coins if done without fraudulent intent if the mutilated coins are not used fraudulently.

STATUTE-
Whoever fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the mints of the United States, or any foreign coins which are by law made current or are in actual use or circulation as money within the United States; or Whoever fraudulently possesses, passes, utters, publishes, or sells, or attempts to pass, utter, publish, or sell, or brings into the United States, any such coin, knowing the same to be altered, defaced, mutilated, impaired, diminished, falsified, scaled, or lightened - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both

Yes, it's crazy that you can melt a coin, just do not deface it. Take care my friend! ffd

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Defacing = OK, if done without fraudulent intent.
Melting= OK, but not for pennies or nickels.

 

[soupie]

Nice info,posted a "push out" four years ago or so and never did get ID'd for certain....I no longer have it,Mighty AP became so attached to it,I just mailed it to him...he made a necklace for his daughter I believe....anyway I still had a pic..thanks for the info folks
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