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JustKeepDigging

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With it being buried, is there any sign of a home site close by? I'm sure they meant to retrieve it later so they wouldn't have buried to far away.:thumbsup: Just a thought.
 

Okay... did not receive your PM so I will assist you here publicly.

You never clarified that you found it anywhere near Jupiter or in Florida, or perhaps I just missed it in the volumes of followup replies... help me out with this one... If you did find it in West Jupiter, was it anywhere near the Burt Reynold's Ranch? There is a reason I ask this (read on)...

1) There was a Third Seminole War fort at Jupiter.
2) Soldiers moved back and forth across the Loxahatchee. during that war, going to and from Lake Okeechobee and there was an overnight camp used during both 2nd & 3rd Seminole Wars not far from BR Ranch.
3) During 3rd Seminole War, many of the soldiers were non-English speaking German emmigrants who joined the US Army after being unable to find jobs in New York and elsewhere. Both these new soldiers, and especially the area militia (some of them also German) used their own personal weaponry along with what was issued to them. Example: I have seen a Belgian pistol and a German coin from 1850's dug in SE Florida near these forts.
4) There was a major archeology survey in the area some years ago that covered the these areas, including the camp.
5) There was much funny business occuring during that survey whereas I witnessed artifacts being pocketed--need I say more...

Okay, here's more... Sword can relate to Civil War era too:

1) During the Civil War, the Indian River settlement militia would visit Jupiter (until 1854, Jupiter was considered as the southernmost extent of the Indian River settlement and few settlers did live there--moved out after Military Reservation was created.
2) There was other Civil War activity at Jupiter as I did locate and dig a small CW camp there--I'll write more about that one in the future.

In closing, irregardless of how it came to be where you found it, the sword appears to have been dug; oiled to preserve it and reburied to retrieve at a later date. You have a wonderful artifact of history so I hope you did find it at Jupiter so it ties in with that area history. Congratulations again.
 

Wonderful piece of history you dug up. Congratulations.
 

As for the "Sack" & Seeing Photos of it ..
Hey ..I just like all the Details/info on any Find.

That's Why for Those who know of Him.
Mas Ayoob , is my favorite Gun Writer.
Cause his Accounts of Diff, Shootings Have So many Details.

The Sword is a Great find no matter when or where it was Found.

Davers
 

Ok everyone first off, Id like to apologize for two reasons. I go to school and work 7 days of the week so sorry for not being active...Haven't had anytime for anything to be honest. I see a bunch of you really want to see the sack but I'm sorry to inform you but it's long gone. It was super muddy, sticky, and completely falling apart by just touching it. I did my best to clean it and check for any info as some of you recommend, but I had no where to keep that nasty thing. Living with my parents they didn't want it inside, and living in an apartment there was no where to keep it. My personal opinion though, I think it was buried like 30 years ago or something. I found it next to some abandoned houses in the
woods that have been there since I was a baby (currently 21). Sorry for not being around, but some of you guys are a little harsh!!! :( :( :(
 

JustKeepDigging said:
Ok everyone first off, Id like to apologize for two reasons. I go to school and work 7 days of the week so sorry for not being active...Haven't had anytime for anything to be honest. I see a bunch of you really want to see the sack but I'm sorry to inform you but it's long gone. It was super muddy, sticky, and completely falling apart by just touching it. I did my best to clean it and check for any info as some of you recommend, but I had no where to keep that nasty thing. Living with my parents they didn't want it inside, and living in an apartment there was no where to keep it. My personal opinion though, I think it was buried like 30 years ago or something. I found it next to some abandoned houses in the
woods that have been there since I was a baby (currently 21). Sorry for not being around, but some of you guys are a little harsh!!! :( :( :(
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What? No pictures of a filthy nasty sack? Some people are going to be really upset! Lol! You really had some anticipation going about your sack! Lol!
just kidding, at least we can move on now.

sent from a potato...
 

thank god .. we can get off the "nasty sack" bits --- hum odd thing is why would anyone bury a sword 3 feet deep in the dirt floor of a stable type building (being inside the building's floor area would help preserve it from rain / moisture ) --- heavily greased ( it was sticky) in a old burlap type sack(so clearly they wanted to preserve it from rust for later use ) --- (at a old abandoned homestead site) ----in an area where there was there known to be both known Seminole and civil war era action --and why did they not go back for it ? -- if buried during the civil war this could make sense -- union or confederate soldier "hiding" it form the enemy ==killed / or died some how in the war or sent to a prison camp and died or relocated afterwards to a different area.
 

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Really beautiful sabre, deserving of a museum piece.
It results(comes) from a cavalry?
 

dieselram94 said:
What? No pictures of a filthy nasty sack? Some people are going to be really upset! Lol! You really had some anticipation going about your sack! Lol! just kidding, at least we can move on now. sent from a potato...
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I regret even posting this find...
 

When it comes to finding old relics and coins, I guess I'm surprised that not everyone has the same curiosity that I do. I don't simply say "cool relic" and move on. I want to learn more. I want to figure out, to the best of my ability, why that find object was lost so many years ago. What a blast it is learn more about the object! I come to TNET to get the advice of others who have more expertise than I do. I know that to get the best advice I must share all pertinent information with the TNET experts. There is no such thing as an offensive or harsh question. If my find is in shockingly good condition, I too want to know why that is. Question: we all go to the doctor to learn more about our health. Should we feel it is harsh or offensive if the doctor asks us probing questions in order to help us learn more about our condition?

In the case of the sword:

-The particulars relating to the site are relevant (trees, rooflines, moisture etc)
-The precise depth is relevant
-The condition of the soil is relevant (was the sword found in virgin soil and simply settled in place, or was it clearly in backfill?)
-The condition of the sword is relevant (was it oily as well? In the photos it doesn't appear to be. Maybe the OP cleaned it before the photo)
-And yes, gimmee a break, the dirty cloth is quite relevant.

The sword is quite a wonderful and significant find. If the OP wants to learn more about his future finds and benefit from this site's collective knowledge, he'll learn more by being forthcoming with as much information as he can. Please take no offense by questions. And, by all means, please try to photograph as much as you can. Good luck and HH!
 

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many folks simply do not understand how a sword blade being steel / iron based can last so long in the soil --I for one LOVE that you posted it * it has "allowed" me to explain to less knowledgible folks how a item like this can indeed -- come out of the ground in great shape * --many things factored into this sword being in such good shape --1st off --being buried within a building's dirt floor (the stable) which sheltered it from water / rain --second the burlap type sack * (which formed a protective "outer coat" 3 rd the fact it was "sticky" meant that most likely when buried , it was heavily coated with "axel grease" or similar type grease to prevent it from rusting away * --these type of factors all working together can produce a wonderful condition sword --which this one is * -- thank you for posting it so folks could learn not to be so fast in -- labeling things as "too good to be true".. I for one say "great find".
 

JustKeepDigging said:
I regret even posting this find...
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Do not feel obligated to have to answer every post or even defend your position, your find. If we did we would not have time to treasure hunt and live life. Once you have been here a while you will see who are the knowledgeable and respectful ones. Pay attention to them but let the others go their own way.
That sword is the find of a lifetime; no doubt about it. If I ever get down that way to see my dad in Sarasota I would love to see it.
 

JustKeepDigging said:
I regret even posting this find...
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Why??? It's an awesome find, and I for one would want to show it off. As has been mentioned all details are relevant. Be proud of your find and do keep posting new ones.

sent from a potato...
 

Wow, nice find. Congrats...Find another!
 

JustKeepDigging said:
I regret even posting this find...
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see now that makes no sense :icon_scratch:
you want all posters to just say nice find & move on ?

I'd regret not taking pics of it & the Sack it came in,
in situ as soon as I'd realize what it is
& it's condition. even if that in situ had to be a reenactment pic.

I take that back, I wouldn't regret it, Because I would have taken the pics,
no matter what condition the sack was in. it was part of the find :unhappysmiley:
(I'd probably be hard to live with too, as I'd be above myself with excitement :tongue3:)

you could have even taken & posted pics with this comment
even if it looked like a pile of mud, or road apples from a horse 8-)
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---- The cloth it nasty though. I have it sitting outside currently. Tried my best to find some info on it but it's just a plain old rotted gross sack.
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Now please don't get so defensive , hurt, or disappointed by my remarks.
They are not meant to insult.
they are partially to hopefully get a smile.
and to hope you realize we are all curious.
probably from birth :laughing7:

Hate us, if you must..... But never regret :thumbsup:
 

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JustKeepDigging said:
I regret even posting this find...
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Thanks for sharing- amazing find- you know what you got, and there's no way Burt Reynolds can
take that away from you!
Joking-

Congratulations!

Rory
 

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