Shifty doin's by the Feds: Treasure hunters challenge FBI over dig for Civil War gold

[MiddenMonster]

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[Honest Samuel]

Wrong: I had heard all the ladies look like Miss American.

 

[Honest Samuel]

# 32. All these people that you mention all cannot keep their mouths shut, if treasures were found, many people would be talking. Good luck to all those involve.

 

[GoDeep]

# 32. All these people that you mention all cannot keep their mouths shut, if treasures were found, many people would be talking. Good luck to all those involve.

Exactly, that in of itself is actually circumstantial evidence it doesn't exist. According to accounts (some inflated, conflated and flat out wrong) but regardless, taking them at face value. You had dozens of FBI agents, Pennsylvania DNR members, Backhoe operators, Local Sheriff officers. You had scanning companies out there. You had armored car truck drivers and their guards. You had banks, vaults or gov't repositories with multiple employees receiving and cataloging the contents of alleged trucks. If found too, you would likely have historians and forensic scientists brought in to examine, catalog, date and identify the contents and send some of it out to labs to be analyzed . You have supervisors of all these people and higher up brass, who would, at a minimum be briefed on what was found. The number of people directly witness to the find would have numbered in the 100's if not closer to thousand's. Then, you have all these witnesses going home and having pillow talk with their wives and husbands add that to friends and other family members. Add to that Cooler talk back at the sheriffs office, Penns. DNR and at the FBI offices.

Literally the number who could have knowledge of this could easily grow in the 1000's and we are to expect not ONE single one of them leaked what would have arguably been one of the GREATEST treasure finds this country has ever witnessed on our soils?

Then add to it, if they did find it. The value in the gov't publicizing the find and putting it on a display at museums across the country would far outweigh any value that would come from melted down bullion. Melting it down would probably pay about one days of wages for the entire FBI. It's pennies to them.

If you're a statistician who plays the odds...it's probably a billion to one that nothing would leak. And the reason it hasn't leaked, because nothing was found of significance.

 

[GoDeep]

Then add to it, if they did find it. The value in the gov't publicizing the find and putting it on a display at museums across the country would far outweigh any value that would come from melted down bullion. Melting it down would probably pay about one days of wages for the entire FBI. It's pennies to them.

I was re-reading my old post and upon further thought, this really rings true. MOTIVE. The primary motive presented by most everyone who believes it was found and subsequently covered up was money. Either they wanted to keep the loot for themselves or a variation on that; they wanted to keep the loot for themselves and not pay any sort of finders fee's to the original discoverers.

Let's break the money motive down:

2019 FBI budget: $8,900,000,000 (8.9 Billion)

Bar Melt Value: $72,000,000 (72 Million) or Qty 26 Gold bars alleged hidden (others allege twice that number, 52) so we'll use the bigger number: 52 x 50lbs: 41,600 ounces x $1732 and ounce = $72,051,000

So the melt value would pay 3 days worth of FBI wages.

Now, the reality is, the treasure would be worth more then melt value due to its historical value, however, they can't sell it for it's historical value, as then that would reveal that it was found, and antiquities laws would prevent them from selling a National Treasure.

So this completely rules out the "hide it for personal gain or to screw the original finders out of their fair share or a finders fee" motive. Period, end of discussion. It's value is literally peanuts to the gov't in any melt or even sales value.

But, let's assume for the sake of argument they did find it. We can all agree this would be one of the most significant historical finds, not just of the Civil War Era, but of all the time in the USA.

So they put it on display at the Smithsonian and as is tradition, it would also go on rotation in various museums across the country and the world, and therefore, it's revenue generating value then becomes astronomical. It is estimated that nearly 1 Billion people every year visit a museum. Those numbers would skyrocket. Millions of people each year, from here and abroad would come to see it. Not just this year, but for years to come. Not just admission fee's to museum, but the merchandise that would be created to commemorate and memorialize it. Hundreds of millions, if not billions a year could be gained in revenue from this exhibit and its corresponding merchandise.

So either way, the circumstantial evidence is very strong that it wasn't found, but if it was found, it wouldn't be hidden, certainly not for some small financial short term gain or avoiding a pittance of finders fees to the finder, when putting it on display would generate billions in income over it's lifetime of display. (maybe even trillions when one considers it'll be on display, even a hundred years from now)

Conclusion, if there was a money motive, putting it on display would far out weigh selling or melting it.

Thoughts?

 

[Honest Samuel]

Sounds to me like the Paradas never heard the Doc Noss story.

I feel very sorry for Doc and his family. They got rob by the federal government.

 

[Honest Samuel]

It is always good to hear from GoDeep. It been a while since we had heard from him. Does anybody have any new news?

 

[Honest Samuel]

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# 2. Very true my friend.

 

[Honest Samuel]

The story has been close, sorry because I wanted to read it. You are indeed a pro treasure hunter and know what you are writing about.

# 4 pertaining to # 2.

 

[Honest Samuel]

I agree with this professor treasure hunter, # 2.. Being honest, I do not believe the story but that does not make it untrue. Each to their own.

# 38 pertaining to # 2.