Show me one single post about government controls needed to curb business? This is a site about metal detecting and the second amendment? And if you would like to know I retired at 42 to spend more time with kids, health and happiness. That us why I am so appreciative of this great country. Dave why don't you tell us a little about yourself.
How about a little about you?
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0121stockpicker
Of course - these are government run programs paid for by government funds. What would you call it. Why do you think socialism is a negative thing. We live in a "society" right? These are well deserved benefits that should be paid for by the people of this country given the service and sacrifices of our military. Would you prefer that our soldiers would come home and there was no VA or benefits and soldiers were told they were on there own and they should be paying for everything? That's is definitely not my idea of any society never mind a great country like America. I gladly pay my taxes to provide these services.
Originally Posted by
0121stockpicker
US has been a socialist country since FDR, maybe that is what he was referring to?
Originally Posted by
0121stockpicker
An economy can easily have BOTH capitalist and socialist attributes - most do. They are not exclusive. Socialist security and Medicare are some of the largest socialist / wealth redistributing programs in the entire world. No big deal - it is what it is. I think it is appropriate for any capitalist system to have socialist programs / safety nets in place.
Originally Posted by
0121stockpicker
I just use that term to make the point that the United States has had massive socialist programs in place ever since FDR. These programs now represent some of the biggest items of the entire federal and state budgets. Many posters on this site believe that only dead beats receive money from the government (and before anyone states that they "pay" for SS and Medicare - you get WAY more out of it than people have ever put in). Before we cast stones at "socialist" Europe and Canada and talk about the "deadbeats" using the system we should all fess up that the vast vast majority of ALL Americans will be tapping into socialist programs during their lives. No shame but Lets just call the spade the spade.
Originally Posted by
0121stockpicker
Nope, I just think the word often has a negative association - like the word "liberal" now a days. This world and country would have an awful lot more misery if we all existed under a "pure capitalist" system.
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0121stockpicker
Cool. I actually collect items related to American Christian communal / utopian societies such as the Shakers, ephrata, Amana, house of David etc. early Christianity was completely socialist / communistic.
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0121stockpicker
Obviously the term "communist" did not even exist then. I am not using "communist" in a political spence but to mean a group with pooled resources owned in common and not owned by individuals. The shakers used to call themselves communists until it became a "dirty word". In some of their later documents they used to put a star next to the word communist and state "not to be confused with soviet communism". Again it's a shame that bad people can ruin a great concept. As "communists" the shakers created not only hugely successful communities but wildly successful businesses. There is absolutely nothing wrong with pooling labor and common ownership of goods. It's actually can be a wildly successful model."
Did you not post these remarks? You obviously have no Idea how humanity works. But you feel if you post enough of your gibberish we will all agree with you?
Get another job, sir. You are stewing in your own juices.