Semi key and bank token

[Bartek]

Took a ride with eastcoasthunter to western nj today. Few decent targets:

First up out of the dirt was this Bank token (Trenton)not sure on its age, so feedback is appreciated.


Later on I scored two of what resemble old bullets, however I never seen this style with top wide:


Lastly was to Indians a 1865 and 1869 semi key date.


Thanks for looking guys, happy hunting!

 

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[Indiana Mark]

Congrats on the finds. That 1869 IH appears to have quite a bit of detail. Would be interested in seeing an image of it after rinsing the loose dirt off.

 

[jeff of pa]

Nice Finds ! & Token.


The Company was Incorporated in 1909, & went Bankrupt in 1916

The Company Sold House Furnishings & Men's & Women's Clothing.

and your Token is an Early Credit Card. (aka Charge Coin)




1912.

Too bad the Story doesn't say he was Robbed Of Credit Checks
but it makes me wonder if you hunted the Spot he was Robbed, Or the
Tramps Camp .

The evening world. (New York, N.Y.), 18 Dec. 1912.




The evening world. (New York, N.Y.) 1887-1931, December 18, 1912, Night Edition, Image 15 « Chronicling America « Library of Congress

 

[ScubaDetector]

Boy Jeff, that article is so unpoliticaly correct! See the last line? So I doubt the Credit Check token was a bank. I wonder what it sold?

Can you take a few closer pictures of what you think is a bullet? the top looks like a semi wad cutter but the whole thing doesn't look like a bullet

Nice finds

 

[jeff of pa]

incorporated in 1909














this is what it should look like Clean



Charge Coins were the forerunners of our current Credit Cards and were issued by department stores and other retail and service businesses beginning in the late 19th century. The typical example will have the customer's credit account number on one side and a business logo on the other. They were frequently issued holed to facilitate attachment to a key ring, fob or necklace. They were issued for a wide range of business types and geographical areas.

 

[jeff of pa]

1914

[h=1]Associated Advertising, Volume 5[/h]page 53






https://books.google.com/books?id=r...nepage&q=ogden bailey company trenton&f=false

 

[Trezurehunter]

Great token find.

 

[trapperart]

Congrats on the token and injuns

 

[thrifty76now]

A very nice find on the IH ,and it should clean up to be a great coin.

 

[Carolina Tom]

Well done Bart! Congrats on the nice finds.

I have found those bullet things before, not bullets, bit I don't know what they are.

Best of luck to you and the crew!

 

[A2coins]

Wow that's the one I'm missing in my display case LOL great finds I love old tokens Thanks for sharing it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[against the wind]

Sweet finds.
Congrats on the Indian Head Pennies and Charge Coin.

 

[ScubaDetector]

500.00 bail for advertising cut glass? WOW. Must have been a very serious crime back then

 

[cb73]

The Penny Lady just put up an 1869 IH for sale for $1200. Would be interesting to see how that (gently) cleans up and if it would be a decent grade or not.

 

[jeff of pa]

500.00 bail for advertising cut glass? WOW. Must have been a very serious crime back then

False Advertising My guess was a come on sale, to get people to show up.
then say Were all sold out Buy something else while your here !
pre Rain-Checks.

But yes ! I would think today they would just be Hit with a fine.

 

[JeffInMass]

Congrats on the sweet finds! Looks like that 1869 Indian will clean up really well. GL

-- Jeff --

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

The patina on that Indian is going to be gorgeous.

 

[oooldman]

54 cal Burnside cartridge

 

[oooldman]

Burnside carbine


The .54 caliber Burnside carbine was designed and patented by Ambrose E. Burnside. This weapon was manufactured in Rhode Island by the Bristol Firearms Company and later, its successor, the Burnside Rifle Company, from about 1857 to 1865. Throughout these years, five different models were manufactured. Lowering the trigger guard, which also served as the operating lever, would cause the breech to tilt up, revealing a cone-shaped cavity. The metallic cartridge for the Burnside, of a unique cone shape, was placed into this cavity. Closing the lever rotated the breech block into position, placing the cartridge in the chamber. A percussion ignition system with an external hammer fired the carbine. A small hole at the base of the cartridge would allow the fire to pass through and ignite the powder in the case.

The Burnside was the third most used carbine utilized by the Union cavalry, exceeded only by the Sharps and Spencer carbines. The most serious complaint about this carbine was the tendency of the cartridge to stick in the breech once it was fired.

Division of the History of Technology, Armed Forces History
National Museum of American History, Smithsonian Institution
Behring Center
Transfer from the U.S. War Department

 

[watercolor]

Wow! Great recoveries on that IH & token!

I would wait a week or two before attempting (for other opinions) to clean that IH. . . Underneath that beautiful green patina crust "might" lie a rough, pitted piece of copper.
If you have a 10X magnifier look VERY closely at the rim of the IH. If you see pitting there, chances are are good there will be pitting on the face of the coin as well.
That green patina "shell" that has encased all that nice detail for decades, once removed, cannot be undone. That's just my opinion.

Oh, that weird-looking bullet (missing it's shell) is from a 1960's-era cap pistol (the mfg escapes me at the moment) You would place a circular, Matell "Greenie Stick'm Cap" on the base of what you have, place it in the brass shell and load it in the pistol.