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So my son and I went out for the second time with our new / upgraded detectors. We are still learning them and have only been using standard settings so far, but already they are paying off.
My son knocked one right out of the park and found what is by far the best button we have found to date, this stunning gold gilt regimental officers button from the War of 1812:
I can't believe the level of preservation of the gilding on this button, it is hard to believe this was in the ground for 200 years. It's hard to photograph as it kept catching my reflection. Some time back I found another button from this same coat about 40 feet away and my son found a cuff button as well:
Apart from a speck of gold on the button I found the others were devoid of any gilding whatsoever.
The 60th is a really interesting regiment. Also known originally as the Royal American Regiment of Foot when it was raised in 1755 specifically to meet the needs of forest warfare in North America during the French and Indian War of 1755-1763. They were distinguished as one of the best units during that conflict. In addition to British subjects from North American colonies and Britain, there were Swiss and German forest fighting experts, who were the first foreign offers to be commissioned by the British Military.
Active in the American Revolution, they were involved in the Battle of Briar Creek, The Siege of Savannah where they captured the colours of the 2nd South Carolina Regiment, as well as the Sieges of Augusta and Pensacola, etc.
During the Napoleonic Wars they were described as the "most useful, active and brave troops in the field."
They were sent to Halifax in 1787, becoming known as the King's Royal Rifle Corps by the War of 1812, for which a 7th battalion was raised specifically. This button would date from that time. The backmark of T Shaw Hemmings Row London, was first used in 1808 from what I can tell, and was discontinued in the 1820's, and I believe the design on the front was changed about 1820. The area where this button was found is exactly where veterans from the War of 1812 were settled, including a number of British "German" soldiers. I suspect that it was only a few years old when lost.
It was 11"down and my son said it was a very wispy 55 signal. His Nokia Legend reads to 60. That's not bad for second time out and still learning.
Not quite in the same league as the button, I did manage to get a decent find myself, this very nice spun tombac bell:
Missing its clapper, as is common, it is in otherwise perfect condition. A bit under 2.5" high and 2" diameter across the bottom, it is of a shape I have not had before. I really like the apple green copper alloy hanger that is slightly wonky in shape. It's got some age to it, first half of the 19th century at the latest, I assume it is likely a goats bell. Does anybody know the name for this shape, if there is one?
Additionally, we found this interesting button that has the British Coat of Arms on the back:
As well as this, which may be a cloak button or a saddle mount perhaps, it does have some age to it.
Also found was this broken Tombac bell. This one was really quite beefy with a heavy top and very distinct filing. I imagine that tombac shattered on a cold night...
Missing in action is an early Victorian broach, hiding out in a finds pouch.
And this iron thing: We are not quite sure what it is, but my son suggested the top hole is for an iron handle and the lower two studs attaching to a leather bucket. That sounds good to me.
Here are some other items I have found at this site but not shown previously:
The coins are few here (so far) and I keep them separately, but to date we have found a very nice 1832 Nova Scotia Halfpenny, an 1858 Province of Canada silver 5 cent, and a very nice 1864 Indian Head Penny.
In addition to the 60th buttons shown already, we have also found this convex 76th Regiment of Foot button (with traces of gold, out of a permanent mud section in the road), an artillery coat and cuff button with a Geo III cyphers and this nice tiny ball button. All are Georgian in date:
Also from the same mud hole in the road, this gold filled WWI era pocket watch has been run over by more than a few ATV's
This wheel from a child's toy wagon is a poignant find. I hope he had fun with it before it broke.
Thimbles, as always:
Projectiles:
A butt plate from a musket. The 60th were outfitted with Baker Rifles. It would be nice if this were from one of those. Unlikely, but it is not entirely dissimilar.
And one of my favorite ax heads. This one was in a wall and so the preservation is excellent. There is a makers stamp but it is too worn for me to make heads of. I should try a rubbing.
I am no expert in ax heads. This one is about 7.5" long. The mark either ends with an M or starts with a W.
Can anyone tell me what this particular ax head type is called? It should date to before the 1830's I would think.
So, now were are stoked to get back out. They only reason we were not out today was the 8 inches of snow we got last night.
Photos don't do it justice.
Good luck everyone...
My son knocked one right out of the park and found what is by far the best button we have found to date, this stunning gold gilt regimental officers button from the War of 1812:
I can't believe the level of preservation of the gilding on this button, it is hard to believe this was in the ground for 200 years. It's hard to photograph as it kept catching my reflection. Some time back I found another button from this same coat about 40 feet away and my son found a cuff button as well:
Apart from a speck of gold on the button I found the others were devoid of any gilding whatsoever.
The 60th is a really interesting regiment. Also known originally as the Royal American Regiment of Foot when it was raised in 1755 specifically to meet the needs of forest warfare in North America during the French and Indian War of 1755-1763. They were distinguished as one of the best units during that conflict. In addition to British subjects from North American colonies and Britain, there were Swiss and German forest fighting experts, who were the first foreign offers to be commissioned by the British Military.
Active in the American Revolution, they were involved in the Battle of Briar Creek, The Siege of Savannah where they captured the colours of the 2nd South Carolina Regiment, as well as the Sieges of Augusta and Pensacola, etc.
During the Napoleonic Wars they were described as the "most useful, active and brave troops in the field."
They were sent to Halifax in 1787, becoming known as the King's Royal Rifle Corps by the War of 1812, for which a 7th battalion was raised specifically. This button would date from that time. The backmark of T Shaw Hemmings Row London, was first used in 1808 from what I can tell, and was discontinued in the 1820's, and I believe the design on the front was changed about 1820. The area where this button was found is exactly where veterans from the War of 1812 were settled, including a number of British "German" soldiers. I suspect that it was only a few years old when lost.
It was 11"down and my son said it was a very wispy 55 signal. His Nokia Legend reads to 60. That's not bad for second time out and still learning.
Not quite in the same league as the button, I did manage to get a decent find myself, this very nice spun tombac bell:
Missing its clapper, as is common, it is in otherwise perfect condition. A bit under 2.5" high and 2" diameter across the bottom, it is of a shape I have not had before. I really like the apple green copper alloy hanger that is slightly wonky in shape. It's got some age to it, first half of the 19th century at the latest, I assume it is likely a goats bell. Does anybody know the name for this shape, if there is one?
Additionally, we found this interesting button that has the British Coat of Arms on the back:
As well as this, which may be a cloak button or a saddle mount perhaps, it does have some age to it.
Also found was this broken Tombac bell. This one was really quite beefy with a heavy top and very distinct filing. I imagine that tombac shattered on a cold night...
Missing in action is an early Victorian broach, hiding out in a finds pouch.
And this iron thing: We are not quite sure what it is, but my son suggested the top hole is for an iron handle and the lower two studs attaching to a leather bucket. That sounds good to me.
Here are some other items I have found at this site but not shown previously:
The coins are few here (so far) and I keep them separately, but to date we have found a very nice 1832 Nova Scotia Halfpenny, an 1858 Province of Canada silver 5 cent, and a very nice 1864 Indian Head Penny.
In addition to the 60th buttons shown already, we have also found this convex 76th Regiment of Foot button (with traces of gold, out of a permanent mud section in the road), an artillery coat and cuff button with a Geo III cyphers and this nice tiny ball button. All are Georgian in date:
Also from the same mud hole in the road, this gold filled WWI era pocket watch has been run over by more than a few ATV's
This wheel from a child's toy wagon is a poignant find. I hope he had fun with it before it broke.
Thimbles, as always:
Projectiles:
A butt plate from a musket. The 60th were outfitted with Baker Rifles. It would be nice if this were from one of those. Unlikely, but it is not entirely dissimilar.
And one of my favorite ax heads. This one was in a wall and so the preservation is excellent. There is a makers stamp but it is too worn for me to make heads of. I should try a rubbing.
I am no expert in ax heads. This one is about 7.5" long. The mark either ends with an M or starts with a W.
Can anyone tell me what this particular ax head type is called? It should date to before the 1830's I would think.
So, now were are stoked to get back out. They only reason we were not out today was the 8 inches of snow we got last night.
Photos don't do it justice.
Good luck everyone...
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