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Did the paper wrap Templar explosives?
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There is some evidence that bombs were used in the crusades... https://thetemplarknight.com/2013/06/22/bombs-crusades/
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If I understand MikeN correctly, he believes the templars used franklin’s templar space/time warp tunnel to travel to 1909 and retrieved parchment paper then traveled back to the time of the crusades to wrap their primitive bombs in it….right?
I guess that story is as believable as any tall tale told by the lagina’s.
I guess that story is as believable as any tall tale told by the lagina’s.
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Last season Spooner had a chart that showed the amounts of gold and silver in the samples and in normal sea water, and the concentrations in the samples were quite a bit higher.
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no, I think they were Mayan or Aztec explosives. L
They were trying to blow up Shakespeare's plays. They didn't like any of them. But they blew up the Chappell vault into smithereens and now you need an electron microscope to find any traces of gold or silver.
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The Curse of Oak Island: A brand new dig at the Money Pit yields almost instant results
The Curse of Oak Island recap: The team began drilling a new shaft at the Money Pit, which has been named Early Christmas 1, or EC1.
www.monstersandcritics.com
They still get excited to find old wood.....
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And the only reason they think it's there is because two kids were playing saw a block on a tree branch over what was was probably ONCE a well, and imagined that it was actually a secret tunnel leading to pirate treasure. Coincidentally they were actually pretending to be looking for pirate treasure when the found it.
They will never find anything there but what was left by previous diggers.
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The kids didn't see a block. They saw a mark on a limb where a block may have been over a shallow dip in the ground.
But that story didn't come out until the mid 1800's so it could just be all made up.
But that story didn't come out until the mid 1800's so it could just be all made up.
I can. If you’re paranoid or think there’s more you’ll stay and probably buy the rest of the island.
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Ball obtained his wealth from raids while serving the British army in the Revolutionary War.
“In November of 1775, the Governor of Virginia John Murray declared that any slave who joined the British forces and stood against the rebel insurgency would be given his freedom. Given this promise of land and his release, the teenage Ball fought with the British troops during the revolution, having joined in his native South Carolina under Lord Cornwallis and then serving under General Clinton in New York. He was finally ordered to Bergen Point in the Jerseys under Major Thomas Ward. Between 1776 and 1783 the British forces occupied New York where thousands of families loyal to the Crown fled seeking sanctuary after having their property seized by the rebels. The men of these families, alongside many escaped slaves, were enlisted into loyalist regiments and companies. By the winter of 1779–1780, the city of New York was almost entirely out of wood, with by all accounts not a single tree being left on Manhattan Island. Ward and Cuyler identified New York’s lack of wood as the ideal source of revenue and Bergen Neck as the best source of the raw materials needed, putting out a call for men in 1779. The unit was untrained in military procedure, and the company was employed in pioneer duties, including the central purpose of cutting firewood alongside other assorted engineering duties. Pioneer units served as early military engineers, scouts and raiders, often working in dangerous and extreme situations under heavy enemy fire. However, alongside their official duties, the unit soon realised that they could increase their income by staging raids throughout the local area, confiscating rebel-held livestock, horses and personal possessions and selling them on for profit. Major Ward’s unit, commonly known as Ward’s Green-Coats, unsurprisingly became particularly notorious and unpopular in the area, with Ward described as a vicious plunderer. The Green-Coats were said to have brought nothing but terror to the local population and the Loyal Refugee Volunteers were seen as little more than bandits. One particularly uncharitable piece of correspondence on Major Ward declared that “those associates with him were negroes, and vile creatures of his own race.” Ball meanwhile had arrived in Shelburne as part of the three thousand Black Loyalists who were settled in Canada at the end of the war, mostly, like Samuel, in Nova Scotia. The black loyalists founded Birchtown next to Shelbourne, and the community would be the largest settlement of free black citizens outside of Africa across the entire globe. The black loyalists had to endure long waits for their allocation of land and were granted less than their white counterparts, they also faced massive discrimination from fellow colonists including from those who had brought their slaves from America.
Just how much wealth that Ball could claim at this point is debatable. A regular soldier would not have had many possessions or much finance at this stage of his life. Soldiers were paid around two to three pence a week for their service in the British forces. However, Ball’s service with Major Ward and the division of “loot” amongst the entire unit may have allowed him more coin in his pocket than most other veterans of comparative rank. Under Major Ward, everyone who took part in a raid received a share of the spoils.”
Ball’s “wealth” is referred to as “great” by many here. However, owning a few small parcels of land with a small house on a small island does not put one in the same league as those owning mansions and having a housing staff serving their every need.
For those that claim Ball found the greatest treasure in archeological history, why did he stay on the small, cramped island vs. creating a vast estate elsewhere and becoming notable in historical records similar to Rockefeller, Carnegie, etc.?
“In November of 1775, the Governor of Virginia John Murray declared that any slave who joined the British forces and stood against the rebel insurgency would be given his freedom. Given this promise of land and his release, the teenage Ball fought with the British troops during the revolution, having joined in his native South Carolina under Lord Cornwallis and then serving under General Clinton in New York. He was finally ordered to Bergen Point in the Jerseys under Major Thomas Ward. Between 1776 and 1783 the British forces occupied New York where thousands of families loyal to the Crown fled seeking sanctuary after having their property seized by the rebels. The men of these families, alongside many escaped slaves, were enlisted into loyalist regiments and companies. By the winter of 1779–1780, the city of New York was almost entirely out of wood, with by all accounts not a single tree being left on Manhattan Island. Ward and Cuyler identified New York’s lack of wood as the ideal source of revenue and Bergen Neck as the best source of the raw materials needed, putting out a call for men in 1779. The unit was untrained in military procedure, and the company was employed in pioneer duties, including the central purpose of cutting firewood alongside other assorted engineering duties. Pioneer units served as early military engineers, scouts and raiders, often working in dangerous and extreme situations under heavy enemy fire. However, alongside their official duties, the unit soon realised that they could increase their income by staging raids throughout the local area, confiscating rebel-held livestock, horses and personal possessions and selling them on for profit. Major Ward’s unit, commonly known as Ward’s Green-Coats, unsurprisingly became particularly notorious and unpopular in the area, with Ward described as a vicious plunderer. The Green-Coats were said to have brought nothing but terror to the local population and the Loyal Refugee Volunteers were seen as little more than bandits. One particularly uncharitable piece of correspondence on Major Ward declared that “those associates with him were negroes, and vile creatures of his own race.” Ball meanwhile had arrived in Shelburne as part of the three thousand Black Loyalists who were settled in Canada at the end of the war, mostly, like Samuel, in Nova Scotia. The black loyalists founded Birchtown next to Shelbourne, and the community would be the largest settlement of free black citizens outside of Africa across the entire globe. The black loyalists had to endure long waits for their allocation of land and were granted less than their white counterparts, they also faced massive discrimination from fellow colonists including from those who had brought their slaves from America.
Just how much wealth that Ball could claim at this point is debatable. A regular soldier would not have had many possessions or much finance at this stage of his life. Soldiers were paid around two to three pence a week for their service in the British forces. However, Ball’s service with Major Ward and the division of “loot” amongst the entire unit may have allowed him more coin in his pocket than most other veterans of comparative rank. Under Major Ward, everyone who took part in a raid received a share of the spoils.”
Ball’s “wealth” is referred to as “great” by many here. However, owning a few small parcels of land with a small house on a small island does not put one in the same league as those owning mansions and having a housing staff serving their every need.
For those that claim Ball found the greatest treasure in archeological history, why did he stay on the small, cramped island vs. creating a vast estate elsewhere and becoming notable in historical records similar to Rockefeller, Carnegie, etc.?
Tonight they get to the bottom of shaft EC1 and encounter the other side of the steel trapdoor guarding the Chappell Vault. After deciding that it was really anhydrite, they move on to the next shaft. The choice for shaft #3 is to see what lies beneath the Dunfield spoils of area F4 - the area with the highest concentrations of gold.
Everyone knows that Dunfield didn't go deep enough before the sides of his dig caved in and covered the treasure forever!
Ocean7
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Apparently they found Shoeless Joe Jackson's shoe sole and I guess that's why he didn't wear shoes. He was digging a hole at the Money Pit and lost them in the muck. No doubt causing him to help throw the 1919 World Series and who wouldn't without their shoes?
More wooden beams and dry holes down to the bedrock. We were all so shocked. But they'll find it next week just you wait and see!
More wooden beams and dry holes down to the bedrock. We were all so shocked. But they'll find it next week just you wait and see!
Ocean7
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well no - they'll find Shakespeare's lost manuscripts, Roger Bacon's concrete crypt mistaken for a vault of treasure by Chappell, and the Cornish Miner's abandoned fool's gold left behind after the Crown discovered it was not real gold.
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