Season 4

[Roadhse2]

Well...

If you noticed when they were separating/searching the tailings of dirt dug...they tossed a bunch of timbers to the side from out of the hole. This digger claw would splinter wood as it dug it out, so a lot of wood chunks would continue down into the hole as they dig. When they brought up a piece from the right depth, what's to say it isn't a chunk that had fallen from a higher level as they dug the hole? A clam shell digger doesnt leave a 'clean' cut as it digs, removes side debris as it goes deeper that collapses off the pipe walls, so there could be surface debris even at depth.

Getting excited over a chunk of wood after already removing a pickup truck load doesn't do much for me...

 

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[sasquash]

Ok, it's not in season 4 but I think many of you know this site:

Oak Island Money Pit - The Last Great Unsolved Mystery

 

[sasquash]

And I think the best shot for season 5 is from Robot (3 years ago):

The (Untold) Story of The Oak Island Money Pit

The Oak Island Money Pit was constructed by the “powers that be” who were and still are to this day, the secret force that controls the course of mankind on earth.
This organization is known as - The “Freemasons”.

The story of The Oak Island Money Pit begins in the 1760’s

It was conceived by a number of Britain’s high ranking naval officers, who were also Masonic Freemasons and belonging to the Masonic “Premier Grand Lodge of England”.
These Masons were members of the Whig Party opposed to the next successor to the throne, the unstable King George III.
These members were:
Washington Shirley, 5th Earl Ferrers — Vice Admiral - Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge — Premier Grand Lodge of England
George Anson, Baron Anson — Admiral of the Fleet
George Keppel, 3rd Earl of Albemarle - Commander-In-Chief
Augustus Keppel, 1st Viscount Keppel — Rear Admiral — Brother to George Keppel
William Keppel — Lieutenant-General — Brother to George Keppel
George Pocock — Admiral — Commander of the Invasion of Havana
and
Benjamin Franklin — First Grand Master of Pennsylvania who met in 1760 with the Grand Master of England to discuss their plan.

The Mason’s plot originated after King George III’s destruction of the Whig’s political power with his redirection of this power to the Tory Party, and the Mason’s concern of the imminent invasion of England, during the Seven Years’ War, by the joint forces of France and Spain. Spain outlawed all forms of secret organizations, including the Freemasons.

The Mason’s plan was to redirect a fortune to the “New World” (North America), to enable the transfer of the Masonic organization, if and when these fears materialized.
Their plan entailed the capture of Havana in 1762.
Havana’s Morro Castle was the Fort Knox of Spain, holding the South and Central America’s gold supply prior to its shipment to Spain.
The invasion of Havana was under the command of George Keppel, with Admiral George Pocock and Keppel’s two brothers Augustus and William
Keppel, commanding the actual attack. They were successful with the capture of Havana and Fort Morro and its unprecedented amount of treasure. They also
captured a number of the Spanish Fleet, which was needed to accomplish their plan. Accordingly, Admiral Pocock returned to England with the main English fleet
carrying a portion of the treasure, while Augustus and William Keppel along with their crew and Masonic engineers all sworn to secrecy, manned the 8 Spanish
Galleons and the 2 British Man of War. This treasure was diverted to a small island off the coast of New England and Nova Scotia now called Oak Island.

At Oak Island the treasure was buried based on the Masonic “Royal Arch” (Enoch’s Temple) consisting of nine arches going down nine levels by way of a main shaft (The Money Pit) which was dug down to the bedrock. From the ninth level another tunnel was constructed which ran back up to a point above the known water level, roughly 20 feet underground and at this point an enormous cavern was built to hold the treasure. The treasure was carted down the main shaft and placed up into this cavern. To conceal their plot they had the 8 Spanish ships dismantled with all the wooden parts not used in the construction of the shaft, tunnels and cavern burnt and all the metal parts (canons, anchors and bolts) were placed at the bottom of the main shaft. Flood tunnels were built out to the ocean to booby trap any treasure seekers attempts to follow down the main shaft.
A large stone was placed at the air lock (8th level) as bait to activate the flooding. This stone had strange engravings on it to entice any unworthy greedy treasure seekers to pause and take the bait (stone) away for deciphering, thus allowing time for the tunnels and main shaft to fill with water and be destroyed forever. The Masons knew exactly by their calculated mark above ground where the treasure cavern was and could access it by digging down 20 feet.

Once the treasure was secured in the cavern and all the evidence was hidden from the island it was documented that the Keppels sailed back to England with 2 ships and a small portion of the treasure, claiming that the remainder of the fleet had sunk in a hurricane on route.

The Masons left several markers on the island to relocate the treasure.

1 large triangle or more precisely a crude Sextant

2 drilled holed stones

1 large stone cross

These combined markers point to the “X” where the cavern is today located.

Is the treasure still in this cavern?

I believe it was removed in 1795

One of the three original discoverers of the Money Pit was Daniel McGinnis, who stated he was drawn to the island when he noticed strange lights appearing on the island just prior to his discovery.
These lights were made by the Freemasons when they returned for their treasure.

This Masonic party was headed up by George Washington, President of the United States — acting Grand Master of the Washington DC Masons.

The treasure’s vast fortune was used, as planned, to further the power of the Freemasons in their new world, with them becoming “The New World Order”.

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

And I think the best shot for season 5 is from Robot 3 years ago:

"The (Untold) Story of The Oak Island Money Pit

The Oak Island Money Pit was constructed by the “powers that be” who were and still are to this day, the secret force that controls the course of mankind on earth.
This organization is known as - The “Freemasons”.

The story of The Oak Island Money Pit begins in the 1760’s

It was conceived by a number of Britain’s high ranking naval officers, who were also Masonic Freemasons and belonging to the Masonic “Premier Grand Lodge of England”.
These Masons were members of the Whig Party opposed to the next successor to the throne, the unstable King George III.
These members were:
Washington Shirley, 5th Earl Ferrers — Vice Admiral - Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge — Premier Grand Lodge of England
George Anson, Baron Anson — Admiral of the Fleet
George Keppel, 3rd Earl of Albemarle - Commander-In-Chief
Augustus Keppel, 1st Viscount Keppel — Rear Admiral — Brother to George Keppel
William Keppel — Lieutenant-General — Brother to George Keppel
George Pocock — Admiral — Commander of the Invasion of Havana
and
Benjamin Franklin — First Grand Master of Pennsylvania who met in 1760 with the Grand Master of England to discuss their plan.

The Mason’s plot originated after King George III’s destruction of the Whig’s political power with his redirection of this power to the Tory Party, and the Mason’s concern of the imminent invasion of England, during the Seven Years’ War, by the joint forces of France and Spain. Spain outlawed all forms of secret organizations, including the Freemasons.

The Mason’s plan was to redirect a fortune to the “New World” (North America), to enable the transfer of the Masonic organization, if and when these fears materialized.
Their plan entailed the capture of Havana in 1762.
Havana’s Morro Castle was the Fort Knox of Spain, holding the South and Central America’s gold supply prior to its shipment to Spain.
The invasion of Havana was under the command of George Keppel, with Admiral George Pocock and Keppel’s two brothers Augustus and William
Keppel, commanding the actual attack. They were successful with the capture of Havana and Fort Morro and its unprecedented amount of treasure. They also
captured a number of the Spanish Fleet, which was needed to accomplish their plan. Accordingly, Admiral Pocock returned to England with the main English fleet
carrying a portion of the treasure, while Augustus and William Keppel along with their crew and Masonic engineers all sworn to secrecy, manned the 8 Spanish
Galleons and the 2 British Man of War. This treasure was diverted to a small island off the coast of New England and Nova Scotia now called Oak Island.

At Oak Island the treasure was buried based on the Masonic “Royal Arch” (Enoch’s Temple) consisting of nine arches going down nine levels by way of a main shaft (The Money Pit) which was dug down to the bedrock. From the ninth level another tunnel was constructed which ran back up to a point above the known water level, roughly 20 feet underground and at this point an enormous cavern was built to hold the treasure. The treasure was carted down the main shaft and placed up into this cavern. To conceal their plot they had the 8 Spanish ships dismantled with all the wooden parts not used in the construction of the shaft, tunnels and cavern burnt and all the metal parts (canons, anchors and bolts) were placed at the bottom of the main shaft. Flood tunnels were built out to the ocean to booby trap any treasure seekers attempts to follow down the main shaft.
A large stone was placed at the air lock (8th level) as bait to activate the flooding. This stone had strange engravings on it to entice any unworthy greedy treasure seekers to pause and take the bait (stone) away for deciphering, thus allowing time for the tunnels and main shaft to fill with water and be destroyed forever. The Masons knew exactly by their calculated mark above ground where the treasure cavern was and could access it by digging down 20 feet.

Once the treasure was secured in the cavern and all the evidence was hidden from the island it was documented that the Keppels sailed back to England with 2 ships and a small portion of the treasure, claiming that the remainder of the fleet had sunk in a hurricane on route.

The Masons left several markers on the island to relocate the treasure.

1 large triangle or more precisely a crude Sextant

2 drilled holed stones

1 large stone cross

These combined markers point to the “X” where the cavern is today located.

Is the treasure still in this cavern?

I believe it was removed in 1795

One of the three original discoverers of the Money Pit was Daniel McGinnis, who stated he was drawn to the island when he noticed strange lights appearing on the island just prior to his discovery.
These lights were made by the Freemasons when they returned for their treasure.

This Masonic party was headed up by George Washington, President of the United States — acting Grand Master of the Washington DC Masons.

The treasure’s vast fortune was used, as planned, to further the power of the Freemasons in their new world, with them becoming “The New World Order”.

There you have it.....As stated many times...whatever was there is long gone and any efforts moving forward are just a complete waste of time and air time space...

 

[franklin]

And I think the best shot for season 5 is from Robot 3 years ago:

"The (Untold) Story of The Oak Island Money Pit

The Oak Island Money Pit was constructed by the “powers that be” who were and still are to this day, the secret force that controls the course of mankind on earth.
This organization is known as - The “Freemasons”.

The story of The Oak Island Money Pit begins in the 1760’s

It was conceived by a number of Britain’s high ranking naval officers, who were also Masonic Freemasons and belonging to the Masonic “Premier Grand Lodge of England”.
These Masons were members of the Whig Party opposed to the next successor to the throne, the unstable King George III.
These members were:
Washington Shirley, 5th Earl Ferrers — Vice Admiral - Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge — Premier Grand Lodge of England
George Anson, Baron Anson — Admiral of the Fleet
George Keppel, 3rd Earl of Albemarle - Commander-In-Chief
Augustus Keppel, 1st Viscount Keppel — Rear Admiral — Brother to George Keppel
William Keppel — Lieutenant-General — Brother to George Keppel
George Pocock — Admiral — Commander of the Invasion of Havana
and
Benjamin Franklin — First Grand Master of Pennsylvania who met in 1760 with the Grand Master of England to discuss their plan.

The Mason’s plot originated after King George III’s destruction of the Whig’s political power with his redirection of this power to the Tory Party, and the Mason’s concern of the imminent invasion of England, during the Seven Years’ War, by the joint forces of France and Spain. Spain outlawed all forms of secret organizations, including the Freemasons.

The Mason’s plan was to redirect a fortune to the “New World” (North America), to enable the transfer of the Masonic organization, if and when these fears materialized.
Their plan entailed the capture of Havana in 1762.
Havana’s Morro Castle was the Fort Knox of Spain, holding the South and Central America’s gold supply prior to its shipment to Spain.
The invasion of Havana was under the command of George Keppel, with Admiral George Pocock and Keppel’s two brothers Augustus and William
Keppel, commanding the actual attack. They were successful with the capture of Havana and Fort Morro and its unprecedented amount of treasure. They also
captured a number of the Spanish Fleet, which was needed to accomplish their plan. Accordingly, Admiral Pocock returned to England with the main English fleet
carrying a portion of the treasure, while Augustus and William Keppel along with their crew and Masonic engineers all sworn to secrecy, manned the 8 Spanish
Galleons and the 2 British Man of War. This treasure was diverted to a small island off the coast of New England and Nova Scotia now called Oak Island.

At Oak Island the treasure was buried based on the Masonic “Royal Arch” (Enoch’s Temple) consisting of nine arches going down nine levels by way of a main shaft (The Money Pit) which was dug down to the bedrock. From the ninth level another tunnel was constructed which ran back up to a point above the known water level, roughly 20 feet underground and at this point an enormous cavern was built to hold the treasure. The treasure was carted down the main shaft and placed up into this cavern. To conceal their plot they had the 8 Spanish ships dismantled with all the wooden parts not used in the construction of the shaft, tunnels and cavern burnt and all the metal parts (canons, anchors and bolts) were placed at the bottom of the main shaft. Flood tunnels were built out to the ocean to booby trap any treasure seekers attempts to follow down the main shaft.
A large stone was placed at the air lock (8th level) as bait to activate the flooding. This stone had strange engravings on it to entice any unworthy greedy treasure seekers to pause and take the bait (stone) away for deciphering, thus allowing time for the tunnels and main shaft to fill with water and be destroyed forever. The Masons knew exactly by their calculated mark above ground where the treasure cavern was and could access it by digging down 20 feet.

Once the treasure was secured in the cavern and all the evidence was hidden from the island it was documented that the Keppels sailed back to England with 2 ships and a small portion of the treasure, claiming that the remainder of the fleet had sunk in a hurricane on route.

The Masons left several markers on the island to relocate the treasure.

1 large triangle or more precisely a crude Sextant

2 drilled holed stones

1 large stone cross

These combined markers point to the “X” where the cavern is today located.

Is the treasure still in this cavern?

I believe it was removed in 1795

One of the three original discoverers of the Money Pit was Daniel McGinnis, who stated he was drawn to the island when he noticed strange lights appearing on the island just prior to his discovery.
These lights were made by the Freemasons when they returned for their treasure.

This Masonic party was headed up by George Washington, President of the United States — acting Grand Master of the Washington DC Masons.

The treasure’s vast fortune was used, as planned, to further the power of the Freemasons in their new world, with them becoming “The New World Order”.

I have only one question do you have documents to prove this or is this just your speculation?

 

[swiftfan]

Now that the government of Canada is involved, if there is anything of historical value there at approx. 143 feet, it would be right to proceed carefully, not just tearing into a "vault" with the clamshell. A lot of damage could happen that way. So now we have the slow tedious work extracting the last of debris before opening what they believe to be the Chapel Vault. So I can see why they stopped when they did. Someone help me here, is this really the deepest anyone has been since Chapel drilled in 1801? Is it possible they have found, or are still finding left over supports from earlier excavations?

 

[G.A.P.metal]

Well they will know if they get close to the real "Ark of the Covenant" that 300 ton crane will turn to Dust and... the whole crew will be turned to Stone !
Gary

 

[jeff of pa]

Well they will know if they get close to the real "Ark of the Covenant" that 300 ton crane will turn to Dust and... the whole crew will be turned to Stone !
Gary

Just send this hat down the hole first

 

[G.A.P.metal]

ya and hide poor old Dan B.

 

[sasquash]

I have only one question do you have documents to prove this or is this just your speculation?

You have to ask to Robot for that

 

[burlbark]

Well...

If you noticed when they were separating/searching the tailings of dirt dug...they tossed a bunch of timbers to the side from out of the hole. This digger claw would splinter wood as it dug it out, so a lot of wood chunks would continue down into the hole as they dig. When they brought up a piece from the right depth, what's to say it isn't a chunk that had fallen from a higher level as they dug the hole? A clam shell digger doesnt leave a 'clean' cut as it digs, removes side debris as it goes deeper that collapses off the pipe walls, so there could be surface debris even at depth.

Getting excited over a chunk of wood after already removing a pickup truck load doesn't do much for me...

That piece of timber they found at 135 feet could have been from the sides or any one of the bore shafts that they sunk over the years. If they had found anything substantial we would have known 5 months ago. That area had been dug up to 150 feet deep and back filled.

A bullet casing......? What was it doing there? A piece of ceramic? Dishes? Shooting? What else was going on at Oak Island?

A show could be made on the moronic commentary. Are they serious?

I cant believe that people still think that there are flood tunnels 100ft under ground. The porosity of the rock makes the water table the same as the ocean around them. Maybe they are at 25 feet of elevation? The tourist sign says 13 feet.

The next episode will have them talking about the flood tunnels and how they have been thwarted by the booby traps. Marty will say its a daunting task to pump the bore hole out and how ingenious the designers where when constructing the money pit. Rick will say he is skeptical but open minded and possibly discuss the porosity of the anhydrite rock. The episode will end with talk of the flood tunnels and a preview of them examining other tunnels on the mainland for possible clues of construction. Or will they will show us a graphic of a diver going down a tunnel with umbilical and the possible dangers he will encounter.

 

[Coach Stack]

Ok, I love the show for entertainment value, and it makes my wife happy that I yell at the TV and not the kids I was hoping and praying that they would find and film at last one pull-tab that would be true reality TV right? (Probably on the cutting room floor.) I think the "whatsit" is a fired modern bullet, I know he said it registered like silver (LMAO) maybe it's just me but I doubt that guy knows much about the Minelab he is swinging. The Hatch? Looks like an old latrine to me. I had to laugh while they were "wading" in it to see where it went.

 

[gazzahk]

Now that the government of Canada is involved, if there is anything of historical value there at approx. 143 feet, it would be right to proceed carefully, not just tearing into a "vault" with the clamshell. A lot of damage could happen that way. So now we have the slow tedious work extracting the last of debris before opening what they believe to be the Chapel Vault. So I can see why they stopped when they did. Someone help me here, is this really the deepest anyone has been since Chapel drilled in 1801? Is it possible they have found, or are still finding left over supports from earlier excavations?

Allegedly no one has dug this deep since the 'vault' was reportedly found back by Chapel. Dunfield's hole got flooded and filled in before reaching the depth of the supposed vault.

I suppose the next thing is send down a camera. Still there seemed to be a fair bit of water coming up with the claw so there a good chance the hole is already partly filled with water.

The thing is if this is the vault they have found than this is a very significant find. If the wood dates more then 200 years old then that would tell us something about whether it was from previous digs.

I hope they answer the question next week and don't just take us back to the swamp or 10x. It is so frustrating how they have stretched out such limited information over so many shows...

 

[Roadhse2]

Yep...My wife asked as soon as she saw the detector swinging..."They find any pull tabs yet?"...

The mysterious 'silver' object sure looked like a bullet to me....but why would anything like that be in the same area you had just found a casing(sarcasm)? A modern looking casing at that, maybe from when they dug that area down to 140 foot deep and a 100 foot wide with dozers...and someone bored was out plinking after digging all day...

One thing is for sure, nothing they find that relates at all to past diggings, wood, scraps of metal, cloth..anything...will mean much or be proof of past treasure. With as many times as that whole area has been dug, drilled, blasted, there could be anything 150 feet underground. The only thing that's going to work is an intact artifact that actually can pinpoint a time and who put it there in the first place...All the rest of this is just fluff to move to the next episode.

 

[Not Peralta]

Amigo's Another deadbeat wanna be treasure show,every week the producers try to find more drama instead of treasure,it's time for them to turn off the lights,lock the gates to the Island, and go home ,or at least far far away.NP

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

Amigo's Another deadbeat wanna be treasure show,every week the producers try to find more drama instead of treasure,it's time for them to turn off the lights,lock the gates to the Island, and go home ,or at least far far away.NP

This...if everyone turns the show off for a month it will go away....

 

[Robot]

Most Men Never Come Close...To Proving The Past!

I have only one question do you have documents to prove this or is this just your speculation?

Over 30 Years of what started as a "Hobby" and then a "Passion" to what my wife now calls an "Obsession"!

My "Story" is now being witnessed by my fellow "Treasure Net Forum Members" and I believe the "Truth" will reveal itself, as more and more evidence is produced and shown with the accomplishments on Oak Island.

 

[sasquash]

There you have it.....As stated many times...whatever was there is long gone and any efforts moving forward are just a complete waste of time and air time space...

No it's entertairnment, and a good one. No professional actors here only professional "montage", not so good for the script.
But I like to watch it and read about it.

 

[sasquash]

So two main theories:
Freemasonry or Knights Templar.
2017 will be a great year !
Not necessarily for The curse of Oak Island series but for Nova Scotia.

 

[gazzahk]

I was just reading this http://www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/crooker.pdf an article interviewing W.Crooker who wrote a book about Oak Island in he 1970s. Never read the book but thought it was interesting about his 'lethal weapon' speculation. It would be quite a tragedy if discovering the secret of oak island releases some horrible plague or something similar on the world...

It also seems that he thinks the theory raised by Dan has some legs ie ancient Inca treasure..

Maybe soon (few more weeks) we will know...