Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

[Breezie]

Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

Hey Ya'll, We went back to the same yard today, and found both Civil War & Revolutionary War pieces, and the best items are pictured below. I guess the pick of the litter would be the Rev. War Figure 8 Infantry Buckle & the CW Anchor/Navy Button. I have no clue on the Mystery Button & the Finial. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Breezie

 

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[Breezie]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

Case Closed (I think; lol): It's an antique Perfume Bottle Dauber. They were made with metal daubers.

 

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[CRUSADER]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

Good stuff!

The buckle is OLD! Anchor button modern, flat button is late 1700s/early 1800s, lead hem weight probably late 1800s/early 1900s.

Agreed. Anchor button is post 1900 as you stated it has an iron/steel back (which is why its not CW).

Also the hem/curtain weight looks late 1800s minimum.

Flat button pre-CW & as above late 1700s early 1800s

No idea why its called a 8 buckle when they are already classified as a 'double loop oval buckle' commonly referred to as a 'spectacle buckle'. Its the oldest find on the post & is most likely early-mid 17th C. (according to my book the date range for this type with the 3 transverse engraved lines on each loop is 1350-1650) - not sure if it could be possible for the later of this date range in your area, so wonder if its a later copy of this type

 

[creskol]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

Case Closed (I think; lol): It's an antique Perfume Bottle Dauber. They were made with metal daubers.

I disagree with the perfume dauber idea, as that application would not warrant that quality metal. However, the given dimensions sparked another idea. Hancock also made sewing machines, and it wouldn't surprise me if your item is the pin on which the spool of thread was placed. Pictured below is not a Hancock machine, but gives a good visual of what I am referring to.

 

[Breezie]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

Case Closed (I think; lol): It's an antique Perfume Bottle Dauber. They were made with metal daubers.

I disagree with the perfume dauber idea, as that application would not warrant that quality metal. However, the given dimensions sparked another idea. Hancock also made sewing machines, and it wouldn't surprise me if your item is the pin on which the spool of thread was placed. Pictured below is not a Hancock machine, but gives a good visual of what I am referring to.

Many antique Perfume Bottles were elaborately made and decorated and some with 14K Gold with Diamonds & Rubies as shown on the website below. I do believe this is an antique dauber for a 'miniature' perfume bottle. Fenton & Hancock made these bottles in the mid 1800's, although the Circle H might not be a Hancock hallmark.

The dauber is only 3/4" long, which is not long enough to hold a spool of thread, plus there is no indication of a place of attachment.

Here's the website to the elaborate Miniature Perfume Bottles:
http://auntjudysattic.com/Mini_perfume_bottles.htm

 

[Breezie]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

No idea why its called a 8 buckle when they are already classified as a 'double loop oval buckle' commonly referred to as a 'spectacle buckle'. Its the oldest find on the post & is most likely early-mid 17th C. (according to my book the date range for this type with the 3 transverse engraved lines on each loop is 1350-1650) - not sure if it could be possible for the later of this date range in your area, so wonder if its a later copy of this type

Crusader, thank you for the information on the buckle. Here are 2 better pics of it; maybe it will help you in your decision. Breezie

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

The hem weight may be hard to date because they are still made today. My studies make me believe that the modern ones will have mold markings or a number such as a 2. http://www.textol.com/d_items.asp?cat=04

 

[romeo-1]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

Nice buckle! I found a spectacle buckle late last year...it's a very rare find for this side of the pond.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

No idea why its called a 8 buckle when they are already classified as a 'double loop oval buckle' commonly referred to as a 'spectacle buckle'. Its the oldest find on the post & is most likely early-mid 17th C. (according to my book the date range for this type with the 3 transverse engraved lines on each loop is 1350-1650) - not sure if it could be possible for the later of this date range in your area, so wonder if its a later copy of this type

Crusader, thank you for the information on the buckle. Here are 2 better pics of it; maybe it will help you in your decision. Breezie

To me it looks typically 17th Century but is that possible??

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

No idea why its called a 8 buckle when they are already classified as a 'double loop oval buckle' commonly referred to as a 'spectacle buckle'. Its the oldest find on the post & is most likely early-mid 17th C. (according to my book the date range for this type with the 3 transverse engraved lines on each loop is 1350-1650) - not sure if it could be possible for the later of this date range in your area, so wonder if its a later copy of this type

Crusader, thank you for the information on the buckle. Here are 2 better pics of it; maybe it will help you in your decision. Breezie

To me it looks typically 17th Century but is that possible??

Yes...

North Carolina was also the place the banner trade token was found.

VA, FL, & New England to name a few could also produce something that old.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

No idea why its called a 8 buckle when they are already classified as a 'double loop oval buckle' commonly referred to as a 'spectacle buckle'. Its the oldest find on the post & is most likely early-mid 17th C. (according to my book the date range for this type with the 3 transverse engraved lines on each loop is 1350-1650) - not sure if it could be possible for the later of this date range in your area, so wonder if its a later copy of this type

Crusader, thank you for the information on the buckle. Here are 2 better pics of it; maybe it will help you in your decision. Breezie

To me it looks typically 17th Century but is that possible??

Yes...

North Carolina was also the place the banner trade token was found.

VA, FL, & New England to name a few could also produce something that like.

Good, another case closed

 

[Breezie]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

Because this is the first "Spectacle Buckle" I've found, and we've established it was made in the 17th Century, how much is it worth? (ballpark) Thanks, Breezie

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

Because this is the first "Spectacle Buckle" I've found, and we've established it was made in the 17th Century, how much is it worth? (ballpark) Thanks, Breezie

More to you. The value is in the history not the buckle.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

Because this is the first "Spectacle Buckle" I've found, and we've established it was made in the 17th Century, how much is it worth? (ballpark) Thanks, Breezie

Nice Buckle you can veiw it here
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showcat.php?cat=176

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Same yard~Different day=Civil War & Rev. War + 2 Mystery pieces

Because this is the first "Spectacle Buckle" I've found, and we've established it was made in the 17th Century, how much is it worth? (ballpark) Thanks, Breezie

over here you would be lucky to get £2 or $5, but in the US