???? Roman Nummus ????? any Idea Please HELP :)

[IAsoldier]

Hey every one glad that your looking at this posting and maybe you can help out. I had this coin over a year now and Im lost on what it is. I do think it a Vandal type but I have one all ready and it doesnt look the same at all. I've been collecting Ancient coins for 10 yrs but sometimes I get lucky but not today. Maybe someone out there can ID this coin. It's 10mm and weights 1.2 grams and I got this with a lot of uncleaned Romans from Spain area. I tried to get some pics but the camera doesnt have a close up. So drew a pic of the coin so all can look at. Thanks all

 

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[DCMatt]

Need better pics...

I'm no coin expert by a long shot, but based on what I've seen on Tnet and my hunting partner's small collection of Romans, yours does not look Roman.

Post better pics and I'm sure Crusader will offer his expertise on the subject.

DCMatt

 

[Angelo]

Couple of Google hits on PXIII Roman Coins and some Star of Bethlehem Roman Coins.

Nothing to write home about, so I wrote it here.

Tony

 

[Montana Jim]

Couple of Google hits on PXIII Roman Coins and some Star of Bethlehem Roman Coins.

Nothing to write home about, so I wrote it here.

Tony

LOL... I decided not to write it here... I found hits that led no-place too...

 

[Fast_Dave]

To ID it we'd really need pics rather than drawings. Here's a couple of ideas. If you have a flat bed scanner, they take excellent images for posting. Or, if you have access to a copy machine, take a photocopy and zoom in on the image, then either scan the paper or try photographing the expanded image.

 

[IAsoldier]

Ill try my best to get some better pics for you. Here you go adn I hope you solve this one for me. Thanks

 

[BuckleBoy]

I've never seen anything like that... and I used to collect ancients too. I feel certain it isn't Roman. Doesn't look like a celtic design either...

 

[Montana Jim]

Any chance it's a bale seal?

 

[BuckleBoy]

Any chance it's a bale seal?

That's a good guess--but I'm still leaning towards coin. It looks like billon rather than lead to me.

The coin has some similarities with the sparse designs and geometric/celestial shapes on some of the coins of Medieval Hungary, for example... Here's one example from Bela IV:




http://www.rosenblumcoins.com/37d

(lot #451)

But I think the coin is a good bit earlier.


I'm still looking for it.



-Buckles

 

[PBK]

Reminds me a bit of some of the hammered copper coinage of 18th and 19th century Afghanistan and India (princely states).

 

[Montana Jim]

Reminds me a bit of some of the hammered copper coinage of 18th and 19th century Afghanistan and India (princely states).

Side two... with the horizontal designs... I agree

 

[PBK]

Side two... with the horizontal designs... I agree

I believe there are also some with a single star, although usually of the six-pointed "burst" variety.

Some of the stars have a central dot or circle as well, and there appears to be a similar feature on this coin (although not indicated in the drawings), as shown in the enhanced images below:

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But again, this is only a vaguely remembered resemblance, not an attribution.

It could take quite a while, but a search on a site such as http://www.numismaster.com or http://hu.numismaticon.com might turn up something.

 

[Fast_Dave]

I agree that the star is probably a key to finding the designers of this coin. I just went through my Krause guide and I can't find a single instance of a five pointed star in Indian coinage. They had sunbursts but no stars like this. Likewise, the roman coins I've seen with stars have a single dot with multiple rays emanating from it. Seems we're better able to say what it's not than what it is. Maybe we can use the Holmsian theory, once you eliminate the other possibilities, whatever remains, however unlikely, is the truth, lol.

 

[Montana Jim]

There is an Indian "Star Pagoda" coin... but it's from the British Empire era... and the star looks completely different.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Madras_star_pagoda_192691.jpg

 

[IAsoldier]

I see that every bodys on the hunt Im to looking around and no luck. I wondered if it could be Byzantine type maybe. I havent been there yet Ill get back with you all.

 

[IAsoldier]

Well its not byzantine but it does come close to a Vandals type coinage. Only thing diff is that it has a star not a person. Well maybe Ill get lucky one day and maybe someone has one like it. Later HH

 

[Montana Jim]

I've been searching a little on my own too... sorry I have nothing to offer.

Good luck!

 

[IAsoldier]

Is there a web site where I can email pics to like David Sears or someone that can ID it.

 

[Mackaydon]

While the pencil reverse indicates four straight lines under the wavy line, I'm imagining they are not straight lines but the date on an Islamic coin.

 

[IAsoldier]

Well I guess I can take a stroll and look around in the Islamic field. I keep you all posted later every one. HH