Rock Verses Artifact

[rock]

Well by popular demand I am posting this to show some damage on rocks that can look altered by human hands but arent. These rocks are the normal types the Indians liked to use for making points and tools. You can see the cortex has been damaged on these. I believe farm machinery has done this seeing there is no buildings and were found in a field where they plow and plant crops. I have found many more examples but these are some I kept just for this. Now this field has been planted and plowed for 50 yrs so some of the damage is not fresh. But you can clearly see these are just rocks and not artifacts. Here you go Q

 

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[Brandiwine]

So brandiwine did you take them to preform stage all the way through to this stage or were they made by others hands?

Made by the hands of Chipsahoya culture...it's a new culture. A counter culture.

 

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[larson1951]

I'm not really sure about this piece. The flaking around the edges is a little dull (this piece has been heavily handled by my 6 yr old son) but it resembles a discoidal piece I've seen on google before. I wouldn't have posted but the flakes of lithic material shine so nicely (it reminds you of chocolate) I have to wonder if its been manipulated by man (other than my son).

Ok...I would go on but honestly I can
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So brandiwine did you take them to preform stage all the way through to this stage or were they made by others hands?

Made by the hands of Chipsahoya culture...it's a new culture. A counter culture.

hey hey wino...you are great....and funny too

 

[quito]

Ah, I thought the type looked familiar, we have them way up here too. They been around a while.

 

[Jon Stewart]

IMHO some of the debitage that you are showing are flakes from being struck and not by machinery. It takes a hard blow on a rock to create sharp edges that are shown on the rocks in your hand. Farm machinery rolls and tumbles the ground leaving scrapes and scratches and doesn't strike it. With that being said, would like to try hitting of that rock you got there.

 

[quito]

Could you clarify that last sentence Jon?

 

[Jon Stewart]

I probably should have written, I would like to hit some of that rock that he has in his hands, especially the tan stuff, hit as in flintknap, make an arrowhead. In other words I would like to find the source spot for the rock that he has as it looks like great knapping rock.

Hopefully that cleared this up,lol

 

[quito]

It's what I suspected, but the "of" threw me.

 

[rock]

The reason for the post is so I can see what is Debitage and what is natural. I am not looking for disagreements but for an answer to the many broken rocks that I find in the fields. I have no farming experience and wanted to know the difference as to what I am looking at when I am in the fields. To know it is Debitage then I am knowing there might be artifacts worth picking up in the area. If it is just broken rocks of course I just want to keep moving along. Its a learning curve for me as to what to look for. Dont take offense please as that is not what I am looking for. I have questions sometimes and I look to the site to help me when I ask. I have nobody else to ask. So some of these might be rocks they were sampling then to see if they were worthy to use then right?