🥇 BANNER Revolutionary War USA Relic? No Idea, but I Know It's Old!

FreeBirdTim

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Deep in the woods today near the spot where I found a Rev War era stirrup. Got a low 70's signal 6 inches down and thought I had dug a flat button. Wiped it off and noticed that one side had grooves on it instead of a shank. Then I turned it over and saw a USA logo on it! Looks similar to the Rev War button logo, but not quite the same. It's 1" in diameter and appears to be brass.

Did some research online, but I drew a blank. No idea what this is or how old. Hoping it's Rev War, but it could be later than that. What the heck did I find?

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Congrats on finding one of the rarest possible coins you could dig, amazing :headbang:
 

This is a coin that I've read about, seen a photo of, and filed in my brain under the section "Something no one ever digs."

You certainly proved me wrong! Wow. I realize that if we are talking about the monetary value of the coin, real or fake matters but I think you've got something priceless either way. That is... I don't even have words for this. Just crazy.
 

Great find. Don't recall seeing one posted on here. Looking forward to seeing the USA side cleaned. Looks like some obvious difference from the 1860s so should be able to tell.
 

Congrats on finding one of the rarest possible coins you could dig, amazing :headbang:


By detecting bragging rights it's crazy rare, but there's a whole lot more rarer and more valuable possibilities. Just a super rare CT that looks like nothing much different than any other CT would crush it. That said, especially if the original, it's one cool coin and I'm sure it puts a person in a very small club of those who have dug one.
 

I was shooting for a rare coin this year,I guess I’ll shoot for the NE shilling :laughing9:
 

Wow.. if that’s a Bar Cent your talking some big money.. they made an electroplate version during the civil war, and another round of novelty restrikes during the early 1900s. That one looks the part though... PCGS or NGC would be able to certify it’s authenticity. Great Find!!!!!
 

Thanks again! I may have to man up and send it in and see what happens. They'll probably scratch their heads and tell me they have no clue. No resolution and kiss my $50 goodbye! LOL!

I'd just hate to see it chip away into oblivion because someone else manhandled it. If I trash it, that's the way it goes. But if it gets destroyed in the mail or at someone else's hands, that would annoy the heck out of me. I'll think about it, though...
 

I still believe its the real deal, but either way it has my banner vote. Simply put, the thought of finding a coin like this is THE motivation for many of us to pick up the detector.
 

Congrats on the banner!! Good luck with sending it in, if you decided to do it. I am almost sure that it's the real deal, the 1862 counterfeit looks to be much rarer than the original actually. I can't even find photos of a copper example of the 1862 counterfeit on the internet, and only one silver example!
 

Congrats on the banner, it looks great up there.
 

Congrats on making banner! I'm one of a number of members that do not think all that highly of authentication and grading services, especially for dug coins. I do recall one member posting a worn, oxidized Highley Copper that was submitted to a grading service. It came back no grade, no positive identification - just a charge to the member's credit card. Need convincing? My Oak Tree Shilling, a Spiny Tree, Noe-14 (one of the most recognizable varieties of Mass Silver) was assigned the wrong variety by NCS (NGC). Need more convincing? ??? Check this out.

View attachment NCS-WRONG DENOMINATION ON SHILLING.pdf

It appears that the experts at NGC can't tell the difference between Roman Numerals XII and III. These are the so-called experts. :mblah05::mblah05::mblah05: I believe that you would be far better to concentrate on conserving and preserving the coin yourself. Get some recommendations and make an informed decision on how to proceed. I'm a big believer in the use of mineral oil for halting the flaking process that you've observed thus far. Lots of good advice can be found here on T-Net. Good Luck!
 

One of the most awesome finds I've ever seen! Congrats!
 

Wow, I finally made banner! Only took me 4 1/2 years to pull it off! LOL! Thanks to everyone who voted for it! Takes the sting out of the 15 inches of snow I'm looking at in my yard! The snow giveth and the snow taketh away! But I know where I found this puppy and I'll be searching that area with a fine tooth comb ASAP! Thanks again!
 

I am almost sure that it's the real deal, the 1862 counterfeit looks to be much rarer than the original actually. I can't even find photos of a copper example of the 1862 counterfeit on the internet, and only one silver example!

Yup, that's my thought process as well. There's only 65 counterfeit copies compared to probably thousands of the original. Either way, it's a rare find, so I'm happy as a clam!
 

Silver Tree Chaser, yup that's the way I'm looking at it as well. I'm not going to sell it, so it really doesn't matter to me if it's real or not. I managed to slip it into a snap-tie holder, so it should be reasonably safe now.
 

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