return to the "bayonnet" in question

[burglarifyoulike]

return to the "bayonnet" in question

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,207694.0.html this hasn't been seen on this forum since Dec. 28, 08, but thought i'd share an interesting bit of info on this thing, whatever it may be, and i may never know , but it was examined bu Jeffrey Wert, author and CW expert. he said that he is sure it is a war weapon of some kind, though too small to be a bayonnet. he believes that it is a "war pick", used somewhat like a dagger. as i said, i may never know for sure, but i trust this man's opinion. (he is the acquaintance of a relative of my husband). as always, thanks for looking!

 

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[Montana Jim]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

No matter how you slice it - it's a weathervane tip.

 

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[Tnmountains]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

The end being solidly filled with a rusted item would only happen if attached to a weather vane for conductivity. Not a rifle. I do not imagine a rifle part broke off in there ? I also do not see any way to attach it either making it a bayonet. Its not what they called a Pike,,,,,The pictures posted are identical to the weather vane. I would have to say good job to the members concensus. Still a very fun adventure and cool find.

Regards,
TnMountains

 

[Tnmountains]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

Here is a unknown Brass type triangular bayonet in brass from Europe.

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

Even the ones that say they are pros are wrong sometime.....Top of an antenna ...for sure

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

Here is a unknown Brass type triangular bayonet in brass from Europe.

What century is this from or is it unknown?

 

[Montana Jim]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

Consider the mount... there is a bend in the bayonete mount and many ARE triangular throughout antiquity...

However...

 

[Tnmountains]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

Here is a unknown Brass type triangular bayonet in brass from Europe.

What century is this from or is it unknown?

I found it at a great site called Michael D Longs in europe. I have bought swords from him, very reputable. This was in his bayonet section.

No bayonet I ever saw looked like a weather vane. But many weather vanes sure seem to look like bayonets.

Regards,
TnMountains

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

Consider the mount... there is a bend in the bayonete mount and many ARE triangular throughout antiquity...

However...

And wasn't the blade on this find 7" long, as opposed to the 15" to 18" of most spike bayonets? I had an original Bess bayonet (shown here on a Bess repro built & held by Kit Ravenshear) and it was triangular in cross section, but not a equilateral triangle. The back was more of a ridge than an even third. And the blade was 15" long.

But who is to say some enterprising Confederate might not have stuck a weathervane tip in his boot as a weapon of last resort?

In WWI soldiers found they could cut and sharpen the iron straps used to hold the barbed wire and made "knuckle-duster" trench knives from that. I believe such things were called "field improvisations".

 

[Montana Jim]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

Consider the mount... there is a bend in the bayonete mount and many ARE triangular throughout antiquity...

However...

And wasn't the blade on this find 7" long, as opposed to the 15" to 18" of most spike bayonets? I had an original Bess bayonet and it was triangular in cross section, but not a equilateral triangle. The back was more of a ridge than an even third. And the blade was 15" long.

But who is to say some enterprising Confederate might not have stuck a weathervane tip in his boot as a weapon of last resort?

In WWI soldiers found they could cut and sharpen the iron straps used to hold the barbed wire and made "knuckle-duster" trench knives from that. I believe such things were called "field improvisations".

I do believe a weathervane used as a weapon is still a weathervane.

Mona Lisa found the one posted above by Big Cy at an old homestead... a bunch of folks thought that was a bayonette too. The truth is however, the very barn near where she found it was and is still loaded with bunches of the exact same weathervanes still up on the roof.

Not every rope was a noose, sometimes it's just a plain ole' rope.

Charlie... thats a great pic.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

Post it for sale as a Field Modified weathervane tip turned into a CW weapon although found in a non-CW site.

 

[searcher]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

Monkey wrench time....


Viking spearhead? hehe

 

[Tnmountains]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

Green check time

 

[burglarifyoulike]

Re: return to the "bayonnet" in question

thanks to all for your valuable input. sorry i took so long to finish this- i was away for the weekend finding a new site (post later perhaps), at a place with no internet access.