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Hickory1

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Apr 12, 2012
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NE Wisconsin
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Garrett Treasure Ace 200
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Prospecting
I have found that other than the old salts, or 49ers on here, the younger generation seems to go out with a pan in hopes of getting rich quickly. I am here to tell you that gold mining, prospecting, if so easy everyone would do it; no such thing as easy money...even gold panning requires "sweat equity" but more importantly it requires a desire to learn what to look for, geology, experienced gold prospectors in order to succeed.

Imagine wanting to play tennis well...and only buying a racket, with no knowledge of the best kind...some balls, and heading to a tennis court to hit a ball thinking you will somehow become a tennis player of value. Same can be said of anything worthy....research, and with this knowledge, listening to the older and more "seasoned" vets of anything you wish to do well at will do you well. However, do not rely solely on the knowledge of those who have learned through experience as they will tire that you have no desire to research and therefore not wish to help you any longer. We live in a world whereby the younger in society await the elderly or more experienced to just hand them the advice without them doing any work. Good luck on that thought.

We've callouses, bruises, scars for the time spent in the field and we expect you to earn the very same....gold will not come to you because you want it....it never came to us until we studied geology, others who were successful, etc., so expect nothing to come easy; I know I will not make it easy for the "young" in this forum. Complaining about a few flakes in a river known for producing alot of gold tells me you never studied what to look for in terms of where to look, etc., You will not get rich just because you have a pan in your hands....the land has a rationale and you need to understand it or fail.

I know in my younger days I would have been embarrassed to whine about a flake or two.....hell that's better than no flakes...but I certainly would have found a way to learn on my own what to look for, etc., If Geology is boring to you, this is not your hobby or sport....it requires one who wishes to learn as much as they can....including variants in opinions and utilizing them to your advantage.

With so much out there, geology for your state, books on rocks, minerals, and gems, videos of how to spot ancient streams, etc., DO THE WORK! No work, no payout....No old gold prospector will lead you to the gold nor give you more than the essentials that will give you more to learn about as you discover the essentials.

If your goal is to get rich and totally abuse the land from over dredging, etc., don't expect my help or many of my old gold miner's help.....this is not about destruction for the purpose of a few hundred dollars....it should be done responsibly and this is precisely why rules are established state wide to keep those who are merely money hungry from destroying trout streams, fish beds, etc., BE RESPONSIBLE, BE KNOWLEDGABLE, KNOW WHAT AFFECTS WHAT YOU ARE DOING, Karma has a way of paying back....not tons of nuggets...remember this always.

Good luck in your hunting, take out what you carry in, leave NO trash or trace that you were there........If I see anything but this from one prospecting, trust I will confront, report. BE RESPONSIBLE!:icon_thumright:
 

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Yes. Nice post. Hour for hour, flipping burgers at MickyD's will get you more money and less sweat UNLESS you put in the time and move some dirt! TTC
 

The right place under the right conditions for which you should study could in-fact bring a more favorable amount than McDonalds'....I have noticed on these sites that the youth, 20 somethings want to take a pan and go out and become rich with zip for knowledge of geology....this is my frustration after studying geology and my own personal panning experiences.....so typical of our youth today that it is as easy as taking a pan and finding gold. Actually I am quite glad that they are this educational removed from what is....more gold for the rest of us!
 

Keep em dumb and lazy makes for better prospects for us.......just saying....
 

>_> I'm 18 and I've been prospecting my whole life and I see potential in finding gold and making a good profit off of it BUT I don't really care to sell my gold.. I've sold it before and I had some nice stuff now I kind of wish I hadn't. Recently I posted a picture of the gold that I found on facebook it was 1/4 of an ounce that I found in like 5 or 6 4-5 hour trips to the creek and now I have a bunch of people I went to school with messaging me asking for me to take them panning so they can "Get rich too" I really don't like that people think prospecting is easy...
 

Hey Hickory1...

Klondike here..

GREAT POST Hickory....!

Back in the day.. pushing 40 years ago...for me... Keene Engineering wasn't around.. nor any of the other off the shelf prospecting equipment companies... Back in the day... we HAD to build our own dredges and sluices and trommels.....do our own experimenting... The internet wasn't around to learn from.... we HAD to do the research all on our own..or fail... PERIOD.....

Does anyone think the first time..or even the first 20 times or the first 100 times we went out with our home made dredges and sluices and high bankers and trommels and such...that... we made a fortune?? Nothing could be further from the truth.. It took lots of trial and error trips and a long time of ON THE JOB TRAING tredmill to get to understand the rivers and streams and the charactoristics of gold and water....How many of you out there know that water tempature effects the specific gravity of gold... or how much mud or dirt is suspended in the water changes the specific gravity of the gold... so what worked well in the morning, may not work well in the afternoon with warmer or muddied water... or just the opposite...just a tid bit of experience for those who don't know...and haven't done your research...

How many trips have the younger prospetors made without any gold equipment at all.... just to study the river..talk with the locals... take pictres..study the maps and Infra-red low altitude photography..or even use Google earth..and hoping you know what your looking at...How many have stood on the bank of a raging river in a major winter storm...taking pictures or video of large roster tails...and whirlpopols and eddy currents... and watch the rivfer for several days at different places...then come back in the spring to the same place(s) and apply the pictures and video from the raging river to that of the quiet summer river...you'll be very surprised what you will learn from the pictures compared to the quiet summer river... I have countless trips just like that to learn about a river and what it does at high water... How do you think I found a 11 oz 17 dwt nugget dredging 30 some years ago... using an 8 inch dredge, with a pair of Burkley 4X4 pumps, powered by a Ford flat head inline water cooled 6.....home made dredge...by accident?.. not at all... research put me in the area where large nuggets were known to exist....How did know where to look at the specific place... by studing the winter river pictures...it's actually pretty simple.. just not many do it.. it's too time consuming...they feel.. Wonder how they justify not getting any gold as not being time consuming...Just wondering...Not only did I find that large one, but several others as well...just not as big as that one pounder..

Nothing is free... NOTHING... if you wanna be good at prospecting...you MUST pay the price and your dues.. without the sweat equity into prospeting.. detailing the old USGS sureys from any particular place..and attending meeting and listening to the "old salts"... and reading books...and reading books...and reading books and application..more reading...more application and mistakes and reading and more mistakes and just like you learned about life growing from the mistakes you made...you'll soon know what to do and not to do concerning prospefting...and if you don't do these things.......your days as a profitable miner/prospector are extremely limited... that not's saying the even a blind squirrel will find an acorn now and then..so it is with the uneducated prospector...they find a flake or two now and then as well...but that's they'll ever do... because that is all they know how to do..

In other posts, I have said.. research...research and more research before you settle on a place to dig...

Hickory.. you said it all.. I am just trying to re-inforce what you said..Your post is right dead, head on correct...

Good luck to all...I wish everyone a a profitable mining season...now and forever...


Klondike...
 

All of you guys bring some good advice and experience to the table and I for one, appreciate what you all have to say. I have to agree that doing a lot of research and putting that gained knowledge to work is the best way to learn. BUT....why let all the knowledge from the experience and hard work go away when the older prospectors quit searching for the yeller gold? I have learned a lot from some of the old-timers that are willing to share some information, but I still attempt to put what I have learned from them to work by doing the work myself. Some are more willing to share info with the new prospectors than others, and I can understand that and respect it as well. It is just a shame to see all that knowledge go away and eventually be lost to all of us. JMHO Gold Nuggets :hello:
 

I have something to say to N8, Ike and the last post,Gold Nugget. N8: No slight to you but most 18-25 year-olds today don't know real work (I know I'll get feed back on that). Ike: YES. VERY nice read. You nailed it, friend. Tnx. Gold Nugget: Some of the old salts never gave the new guy the time of day. Then the rest passed it all on. Keep looking and find those that will help ya and HANG ON to them. Ike, you met LUKE yet? He's the guy that has been camping out of his blue car... you know who I mean. I stop by him often and bring boxes of food to him. He is a WEALTH of info... some of it you can use. Take care, my friends. TTC
 

I have something to say to N8, Ike and the last post,Gold Nugget. N8: No slight to you but most 18-25 year-olds today don't know real work (I know I'll get feed back on that). Ike: YES. VERY nice read. You nailed it, friend. Tnx. Gold Nugget: Some of the old salts never gave the new guy the time of day. Then the rest passed it all on. Keep looking and find those that will help ya and HANG ON to them. Ike, you met LUKE yet? He's the guy that has been camping out of his blue car... you know who I mean. I stop by him often and bring boxes of food to him. He is a WEALTH of info... some of it you can use. Take care, my friends. TTC

Yeah I agree I don't know "real work" in some ways. Maybe work ethic? I don't know :tongue3:. But I've been prospecting for about 11 years now and that's got to count for something. I go panning with my dad and grandpa all the time and they have 30 or more years of experience and most of the time I get 5x as much gold as they do. It's actually been over 30 years since they found a nugget of any size and I find them almost every trip. They were actually around long enough to talk to some old miners in person that prospected all their lives and they passed some of what they learned from them on to me. I believe that 11 years of experience can be just as good as 30+ years under the right circumstances. I will admit I do lack experience in prospecting around rivers. I only do creeks. The only problem with that is, I've been going to the same places so often that I'm running out of places to go and the gold is running out. From what I've seen the creeks around here don't replenish themselves like some people say because they don't get enough flow and there's only so many creeks. Well enough of my random talking I'm going to the creek. -N8
 

N8, you started right, with help while you were young. Also the other fellas are right too. Some of us, that don't have a heap of cash to buy the best equipment, also learn how to build what we need. Granted, when it comes down to moving the dirt, you just have to dig a hole. Knowing where makes all the difference. TimC
 

What TerryC said is so true. Very few of this gameboy, i-pad generation have a grasp as to what real work is about. They have never had a shovel, kiser blade, sling blade or a double blade axe in their hands for 12 to 16 hours a day, day in day out. They have never hand dug a hole for a septic tank, cleared off land for farming, picked or hoe cotton from can to can't. To be honest, at my age I could not go back to it. But it taught me that the true value of a man/woman is not in what they were born into, but what they achieved or kept by the sweat of their brow and the calluses on their hands.
 

Well, Greycloud, I was a cop (or Kennedy Space Center Armed Security) most of my adult life. NEVER got calluses! But my hat goes off to the Firefighters of this land. I could chase an armed bad guy into a dark alley. He may choose to kill or not to kill me. But fire HAS NO SOLE yet that fireman goes into the burning building! Those kinda guys are HIGH on my hero list... right under our service men and women... past, current, and KIA/MIA. Stay thirsty, my friend. TTC
 

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