Rare trade token, Buttons, Colonial pottery, Whatzits,

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These are the finds from my last few hunts. Been in a bit of a slump lately with no silver and few good kinds. Our colonial site is starting to dry up (at least we thought until VMI scored on a bucket lister after the hurricane) but there is a lot of potential if we can get the tall grass/poison oak/and weeds taking out.

The first good find was a couple weeks ago from VMI's honey hole the pit! This trade token is from Pon Pon South Carolina which doesn't exist anymore. VMI dug the same one, except it was a "100" value, about 3 years ago from about 10 yards away from where i dug this one. It was a faint signal coming in broken around 35-36. Dug a plug and when i swung over the hole it really started to come in clear and repeating at 35. We are still looking for more info on these tokens. One token expert said he thinks its 1880's 1890s. But we think it might be older just because of the rudimentary shape and look to it. Might have to trade this one to VMI so he can have both to display from his fave spot.

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Next pics a mix of my better pottery/porcelain finds and the Pon Pon token. The small piece is shell-edged pearl ware colonial I believe. Then my first fragment with a back mark ended up being from 1943 from The Homer Laughlin company.

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Heres a pic of random pottery and finds. Some of our typical brass nails mixed in there.

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Then the whatzits and curious finds. Not sure if this thing is anything but figured id post. size of a quarter or so. Then this plate fragment. I find a lot of pieces like this with this color so i'm wondering on its age if anyone can id that for me. This thick piece of pottery is curious. Im pretty sure its a piece of pottery but its so thick that Im wondering if its Native American. Let me know.

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Last finds are the slim pickings from 3 hours on friday. Two plain cuff buttons one found on the coast and another back in the original colonial field lot at our site. Both came in choppy but i figured i might as well dig them just in case. Glad i did. The wheat is a 1917. Don't dig too many teen wheats. This little brass whatzit needs an id who whats it?!

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Thanks for looking!
 

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Another good bunch of finds; you definitely have some colonial pottery shards. The mystery pottery shard is Native American based on the sand tempering and roughness.

Yeah it seemed pretty thick to be colonial so I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks its native american
 

A couple of years ago, when VMI posted his '100' token, 'Bramblefind' ID-ed the "N & R" designation as Neyles and Rivers.
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/401455-unusual-coin-token.html
Neyles could refer to Dr. Phillip Neyles who married the daughter of Tobias Ford and soon moved into the Ford plantation, named Woodford, upon the death of T.Ford. The marriage occurred in 1797. The plantation was in St. Bartholomew's Parish. It's not beyond possibility that Neyles and "Rivers" used these tokens while operating the Ford plantation after the death of Mr.Ford.
Don......
 

A couple of years ago, when VMI posted his '100' token, 'Bramblefind' ID-ed the "N & R" designation as Neyles and Rivers.
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/401455-unusual-coin-token.html
Neyles could refer to Dr. Phillip Neyles who married the daughter of Tobias Ford and soon moved into the Ford plantation, named Woodford, upon the death of T.Ford. The marriage occurred in 1797. The plantation was in St. Bartholomew's Parish. It's not beyond possibility that Neyles and "Rivers" used these tokens while operating the Ford plantation after the death of Mr.Ford.
Don......

Certainly a possibility, didn't draw the connection. Pon Pon (now Jacksonboro) in 1725 it was also called St. Bartholomew's Parish
 

Nick/Jon ..Tony Chibbaro expert on SC tokens Sent me the following after sending him pics of your tokens. Date seems off but here is what he sent me.....
They were issued by a company called Neyle & Rivers who operated a general store in Charleston County near the Pon Pon(Edisto)river.* Circa 1890.* Five denominations are known – 1 dollar, 50 cents, 25 cents, 10 cents, & 5 cents.* Fairly scarce.* Value is around $35-50 each depending on condition……..
 

A couple of years ago, when VMI posted his '100' token, 'Bramblefind' ID-ed the "N & R" designation as Neyles and Rivers.
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/401455-unusual-coin-token.html
Neyles could refer to Dr. Phillip Neyles who married the daughter of Tobias Ford and soon moved into the Ford plantation, named Woodford, upon the death of T.Ford. The marriage occurred in 1797. The plantation was in St. Bartholomew's Parish. It's not beyond possibility that Neyles and "Rivers" used these tokens while operating the Ford plantation after the death of Mr.Ford.
Don......

Interesting info...thanks man. Just putting pieces of this puzzle together.

Nick/Jon ..Tony Chibbaro expert on SC tokens Sent me the following after sending him pics of your tokens. Date seems off but here is what he sent me.....
They were issued by a company called Neyle & Rivers who operated a general store in Charleston County near the Pon Pon(Edisto)river.* Circa 1890.* Five denominations are known – 1 dollar, 50 cents, 25 cents, 10 cents, & 5 cents.* Fairly scarce.* Value is around $35-50 each depending on condition……..

OK yeah thats kinda what we were hearing. I wonder if there are other examples of these that we could see. Thanks!
 

Nice group of finds! Cool token! Congrats and HH
 

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