Question abut this hobby.

[Frankn]

See, people around here have the wrong idea about all of this. Seems a lot of folks grabbed a football and ran home with it but it wasn't the right football.

Profit comes in many forms and all metal mode can zing you profit and probably will more often than searching for that nice ring. Profit is getting exercise, enjoying what you are doing and having some change left over at the end of the year after all expenses. Will you get rich? Nope, but you do not need to treat this like every other hobby either because the potential for money to at least help defray some of the costs is pretty good.

I doubt I will take this hobby up again unless we can find a house close enough to the beach but the realtors are being real <bleep> and letting the local flippers always have first crack at every house that becomes available (guaranteed money vs a homesteader). I want to enjoy the beach and my MD knowing that it will eventually strike enough to have paid for itself (ROI) but if there is absolutely no chance of ever seeing a ROI then this hobby really is, and I quote a stance I have seen around the web, "just a past time of old, and or rich, men". I suppose it is like fishing where you spend a grand on a rod and reel but you will never ever pull a grand's worth of fish with that rod and reel except on a rare chance the lucky fairy touched you that day.

I think it's more a matter of 'return on effort' than (ROI). Frank...

 

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[Dark Alchemist]

I think it's more a matter of 'return on effort' than (ROI). Frank...

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Most likely but a machine of 90 dollars vs one of 1500 dollars the 1500 had better give a greater rate of return for the same sweat invested.

 

[Stormrider51]

DA...I'm not sure what your point really is. This is a hobby, not a profession. It's the ONLY hobby I ever had that eventually paid for itself or even had the potential to. I have a custom muzzleloading rifle that cost more than my detector. I sure don't expect it to earn me any money. I used to ride motorcycles and fly airplanes. Never made any money doing that either. I'm beginning to suspect that your comments are just made to get yourself attention. It's certainly your right to not be part of the hobby of metal detecting but if that's the case why are you on a metal detecting forum? To tell the rest of us how stupid you think we are? Based on how fast you reply to posts you must live in the internet. Just sayin'.

Storm

 

[Dark Alchemist]

DA...I'm not sure what your point really is. This is a hobby, not a profession. It's the ONLY hobby I ever had that eventually paid for itself or even had the potential to. I have a custom muzzleloading rifle that cost more than my detector. I sure don't expect it to earn me any money. I used to ride motorcycles and fly airplanes. Never made any money doing that either. I'm beginning to suspect that your comments are just made to get yourself attention. It's certainly your right to not be part of the hobby of metal detecting but if that's the case why are you on a metal detecting forum? To tell the rest of us how stupid you think we are? Based on how fast you reply to posts you must live in the internet. Just sayin'.

Storm

No, you're not just sayin' you are attacking me. You basically summed up what I have been saying in your third sentence yet you had to continue and end up being a horses rump and attacking me. Using "Just Sayin'" is not a get out jail free saying.

 

[Stormrider51]

Really, Sir? I'm attacking you? It seems to me that you have been attacking any of us who don't seek a "profit" based on your opinion of what profit is. If we place our finds in "jars" we are, in your opinion and opinion is the lowest form of knowledge, wasting our time and only leaving our heirs a mess to clean up. So all relic hunters are wasting their time because the bits and pieces of history they recover are junk? It certainly seems to have value to them. Value is a personal thing. If you don't feel that spending $1,500 on a detector and then using it for hours on end to recover coins, jewelry, pull tabs, can slaw, and bits of history is a worthwhile pastime then by all means find another hobby. That is your right. But don't talk down to me or anyone else in this hobby because we don't go along with your narrow view of "value". Just sayin'.

Storm

 

[Dark Alchemist]

Really, Sir? I'm attacking you? It seems to me that you have been attacking any of us who don't seek a "profit" based on your opinion of what profit is. If we place our finds in "jars" we are, in your opinion and opinion is the lowest form of knowledge, wasting our time and only leaving our heirs a mess to clean up. So all relic hunters are wasting their time because the bits and pieces of history they recover are junk? It certainly seems to have value to them. Value is a personal thing. If you don't feel that spending $1,500 on a detector and then using it for hours on end to recover coins, jewelry, pull tabs, can slaw, and bits of history is a worthwhile pastime then by all means find another hobby. That is your right. But don't talk down to me or anyone else in this hobby because we don't go along with your narrow view of "value". Just sayin'.

Storm

One man's junk is another man's treasure and the rest of what you said is just dumb. Sounds to me like you had your butt hurt because only someone who is not secure in what they are doing would come back at someone as you did. I never said it was wasting time but what I do think is that hoarding, for the sake of hoarding, is just a sin especially when it deals with antiquities/relics. That is like some sob who buys/finds the original US constitution and sticks it on his wall so he can brag to his friends and stare at it at night. Better for a museum to have it so the world may gawk upon it.

As far as jewelery, pull tabs, etc... goes off to be sold as soon as I find the darn things as hoarding those shows a mental problem that people call hoarding and those that do that as hoarders. Hell, just look at the modern sickness that people have so much junk that they go pay for storage places for that junk and either die or can't afford the storage place anymore and the contents gets auctioned off "pig in a poke" style (there is a whole reality show about that). Yes, that is a sickness and I forgot the medical term for it but if you find 200 rings, for instance, and stick them in jars never doing anything with them then you have the sickness.

 

[Muddyhandz]

Too bad I didn't put all my gold rings in a jar back in the 90's. Nope, scrapped it all at $300-$400 an ounce.
All that hard earned gold could have netted me at least 4 times more had I kept it 10 years longer IN A JAR.
Thousands of people on this forum have real treasures sitting in jars while you sit in your armchair and judge people as hoarders.
Where's all your great finds? Oh, that's right..... You don't even have a detector.
Another person in cyberspace with an opinion. Creates a thread just for the sake of arguing.
I think there's a reality show about people who go on the internet and start threads about something they know nothing about and.......
Maybe you have a sickness!
Really, it's none of your concern what we do with our finds.
BTW, the football everyone is running off with is the ball you created. Now you say profit is exercise, enjoying what you do, blah, blah.
If that's the case then why does it matter if people put their finds in a jar? Why should they sell everything?
This thread makes no sense and I'm not wasting anymore time.
Happy hunting. (With your invisible detector)

 

[Dark Alchemist]

Too bad I didn't put all my gold rings in a jar back in the 90's. Nope, scrapped it all at $300-$400 an ounce.
All that hard earned gold could have netted me at least 4 times more had I kept it 10 years longer IN A JAR.
Thousands of people on this forum have real treasures sitting in jars while you sit in your armchair and judge people as hoarders.
Where's all your great finds? Oh, that's right..... You don't even have a detector.
Another person in cyberspace with an opinion. Creates a thread just for the sake of arguing.
I think there's a reality show about people who go on the internet and start threads about something they know nothing about and.......
Maybe you have a sickness!
Really, it's none of your concern what we do with our finds.
BTW, the football everyone is running off with is the ball you created. Now you say profit is exercise, enjoying what you do, blah, blah.
If that's the case then why does it matter if people put their finds in a jar? Why should they sell everything?
This thread makes no sense and I'm not wasting anymore time.
Happy hunting. (With your invisible detector)

With the mentality of waiting for the next best thing to come in you will always be waiting. Happens with computers and happens with you saying if you had only waited 10 more years. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I judge anyone who keeps something in a jar, to the day they die, as a damn hoarder. Yep, I sure do especially if that item, or those items, are relics. There should be a law against relic hoarders and in Egypt I know there is for a reason and we need one here as well.

As far as arguing I am not I just think it is silly to stash and hoard and I made it known and luckily a few people, knowingly or unknowingly, agreed with me. So, go bash them some?

I already figured this was an elitist forum when I found other forums, after the responses I was getting here, that even promote themselves as the friendly dectionists forum.

"Really, it's none of your concern what we do with our finds." You are very correct it isn't but it should be all of ours if they are relics.

This thread makes sense to people who are not so caught up in their twisted dogma that they can hold a conversation about all of this without going pussified on the thread. This is akin to discussing politics and religion when people go nutso but their nutso is because they are not firm in their beliefs.

So, go dig a ditch and plant yourself in it or go buy lots of mason jars because frankly you are a huge negative on the hobby. You are why the world looks down on you because many pillage what they find whereas a professional knows to put the stuff in a museum for the world to admire. To do anything else is just selfishness.

Now clad, junk, even modern jewelry you can stick them up your butt and admire them every time you take a dump because I am done with this forum and will gladly go to the other that have helpful, intelligent, and just down right unself absorbed MD people.


MODERATOR, lock this thread if you would.

 

[Dark Alchemist]

One last response for those who can hold a conversation about this hobby without going bat crap crazy I thank you for the conversation we had.

 

[Muddyhandz]

Moderators, lock this thread so I can have the last word.

 

[Muddyhandz]

Here I am, spending my time with one who knows nothing about me. I don’t store my relics in jars.
I store them in boxes. Yes, all the contents from a site in one box cleaned, documented, cataloged, researched, stabilized and preserved.
I have 2 books on the go from these artifacts that I will share with the world. I don’t own these artifacts; I am a caretaker of them.
I use an archaeological approach to my search techniques and even have sifted important sites before they were hauled away due to development.
Hundreds of hours just to save some Native beads and such.
If I die, all of my important finds will contain the information needed for academics to study.
There are several on this forum who do this. You think you know everything about the 50,000 members here?
Elitist forum, give me a break!
So, if I donate all my stuff to a museum, you think it will be displayed for all to see? You’re pretty naïve! My stuff would end up in boxes stored in the basement of that museum.
I am preserving these relics for future generations and you have no right to judge me or others on this forum!
I’ve rescued several important sites and given thousands of hours with no profit just to save history that belonged to places that have now been completely destroyed.
What I’m saying here is just the tip of the iceberg and owe no more energy to some stranger on the internet who thinks he knows everyone here.
You’re barking up the wrong tree with your assessment of us relic hunters!

 

[christo000]

My thoughts aswell there mayb a couple who know me a lot that don't I take alot of pride in my hunts weather relic hunting coin jewelry its the hobby I choose to do with my time & display my finds in glass frames cuz I'm proud of the hours dedication that I've put into this hobby & I'm sure there are others who display there finds aswell its what we like to do show that we have found a link to the past everyone is goin to have there own thoughts but to say we are hoarders cuz we hold on to items we found is nuts

 

[Frankn]

I think sometimes people get carried away when making posts. I would venture a guess that most detectorist are in it for the just plane thrill of pulling something from the ground that they found, But there is always that carrot out front, the hope that that thing they just found glitters of gold. It's just human nature. Frank

 

[-Taz-]

interesting tactic, kick down the door and expect to be welcome with open arms, and invited to dinner....

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

My main reason for the hobby is not a profit but to get out and do something outdoors .Exercise is the gain that I receive plus some pocket change occasionally as for the true trash I throw it away and I am not a collector as I live in an Apartment so I don't have the room to save much for relatives to throw out when I die although I do save the pulltabs to donate to a local Childrens Hospital that my Granddaughter was in.They have a program that gets them money to help the kids with their treatments.Maybe other detectorists do some of the same I never got into detecting for a profit it's always been just a hobby to me.

 

[mercury1]

DA, I think you view MDing differently then most and that seems apparent from some of the responses you have received and the rebuttals you have made. I am brand new to this hobby and have no finds yet. But I look at it like I do coin roll hunting, something I've been at for a year and a half now. I keep all my silver coins I find. Hoard them, if you like. I may sell them in retirement or if I fall on hard times or I may die with my hoard intact. To me it's a form of savings/investment and just like other assets I own, they will be inherited by family and that's not a bad thing. If I find gold and silver with my detector it will be treated just like my CRH finds. These hobbies bring me enjoyment and a slow but steady accumulation of silver and hopefully gold, platinum etc. You can do what you want but it seems that most view things differently then you do. To each his own.

 

[happycamper08]

I don't think DA is dark alchemist I think it is dark ARCHEOLOGIST! GO AWAY GRAVE DIGGER!