Praise Rep Trey Gowdy pounding former IRS head at hearing

[0121stockpicker]

Don't you just love it?...none of these liberal morons knows anything, none of them do anything, and the problems are all "inherited"....they didn't cause any of them. It's like the liberal mantra.
Jim

I guess I'm missing how this is a "liberal thing" and not just politics as usual?

 

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[Native Floridian]

Seriously!

Who do i see to get my six minutes back? This is why Lois took the 5th.

other than a bozo congressman berating the witness what else took place? Did we learn anything?

Nope!

You want the truth? how about giving the witness a chance to answer. You learn by listening, not talking. How much listening did the congressman do? By my count none! Every attempt to answer was interupted. Demanding a yes no answer to a non yes no question. Classic!

This is why we need a special prosecutor. Someone without a political agenda asking the questions.

The one congressional hearing I enjoyed was when congress called the Goldman Sachs guys to testify. Just like this side show, the congressman were loaded for bear. Ready for their closeup! And then the Goldman guys fried them!!! Made them look like the idiots they are.

They are idiots, so it was appropriate!

 

[Native Floridian]

Oh and soundbyte soundbyte soundbyte - the praise for this guy repeated on conservative websites across the country, big face time on FOX etc lots of buzz! Mission accomplished!

 

[0121stockpicker]

And for act two congress can haul out some fat car bankers or doping ball players and berate them. Got to get those pr ops in. Gives them something to run during the next campaign cycle. Pre made campaign ads. But then again many Americans think pro wrestling and reality tv is unscripted and "real". Back to the pastures sheeple.

 

[Jim in Idaho]

I guess I'm missing how this is a "liberal thing" and not just politics as usual?

That was my bad...obviously it was conservative IRS people that were targeting conservative groups. How could I be so stupid?
Jim

 

[bevo]

Ya Jim what were you thinking.
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[dieselram94]

NF, Lois took the fifth because she is holding back very damaging info...She doesn't want to answer the questions, period. To suggest otherwise is very politically driven...

 

[0121stockpicker]

NF, Lois took the fifth because she is holding back very damaging info...She doesn't want to answer the questions, period. To suggest otherwise is very politically driven...

Doesn't matter why - a right is a right. Just like it doesn't matter why you choose to have a gun if you want one. The second amendment gives you that right. And just because you choose to arm yourself does not make you a criminal - correct?

And I completely disagree with your premise of guilt also. Anyone who has been involved or is knowledgable in legal matters know that you NEVER talk to the "authorities" if there is even a hint you are a person of interest. It's why most people on trial do NOT take the stand in their own defense. Any lawyer in the world would council this person to take the fifth without even asking her if she had something to hide. This is LAW 101 people. Ask any lawyer.

 

[Native Floridian]

Stock, well said!

The purpose of the fith amendment is to protect the innocent. Everyone who testifies before congress is a target or a potential target of the investigation.

Any centered person watching that video of the congressman grilling Shulman can see that the congressman is not interested in seeking answers. Many of the questions were loaded. Loaded with judgmental adjectives and invective. That is called playing to the base. The hearing is a high profile photo op for the congressman. However, for the witness, it is anything but. Just ask Roger Clemens!

The congressman got more face time as a guest on some FOX shows last night. He got what he wanted.

If you doubt he was playing to his base, why are you so charged up about him? So much so that you posted the video here? He is your hero! Yet, on this national stage, he accomplished nothing toward the national goal of moving the investigation forward.

We got the fith! From which we should draw no conclusions.

 

[0121stockpicker]

I just find it pretty funny that all these die hard defenders of the constitution are now questioning someone's use of their constitutional rights??

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

As stated before, if she is given immunity the 5th can't be used....Give her immunity and see where the trail leads....

I support the fifth just as much as the 2 or any of the other amendments in BOR....


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[0121stockpicker]

As stated before, if she is given immunity the 5th can't be used....Give her immunity and see where the trail leads....

I support the fifth just as much as the 2 or any of the other amendments in BOR....

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That could be a strategy through since it is a congressional hearing I do not know the process of who would offer immunity and or whether she needs to be "formally charged@ with something before one can offer immunity. Do you know how the process would flow?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Testifying before congress is like before a court. Lying is perjury and can get you major jail time....

Congress grants the immunity which means nothing said in her testimony can be used against her in a criminal court. This is what they did to Col oliver north during the Iran-contra hearings to get North to testify.

If granted immunity she can not refuse to legally testify, to do so can mean possible jail time, and since she is government employee loss of her job and benefits.

Lerner does not appear to be the type willing to accept or enjoy jail time or the loss of her pension...

Congress has the right and the duty to investigate their employees when illegal activity is suspected.

Lerner is a small fish, giving her immunity is nothing and her immunity would not extend to anyone else and she cannot refuse to testify to protect coworkers or ANYONE. If she is granted immunity it means they think she knows something worth going after.....

My guess is 75% chance we will see her get immunity..

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[mercury1]

Testifying before congress is like before a court. Lying is perjury and can get you major jail time....

Congress grants the immunity which means nothing said in her testimony can be used against her in a criminal court. This is what they did to Col oliver north during the Iran-contra hearings to get North to testify.

If granted immunity she can not refuse to legally testify, to do so can mean possible jail time, and since she is government employee loss of her job and benefits.

Lerner does not appear to be the type willing to accept or enjoy jail time or the loss of her pension...

Congress has the right and the duty to investigate their employees when illegal activity is suspected.

Lerner is a small fish, giving her immunity is nothing and her immunity would not extend to anyone else and she cannot refuse to testify to protect coworkers or ANYONE. If she is granted immunity it means they think she knows something worth going after.....

My guess is 75% chance we will see her get immunity..

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Hope you are correct so they can get the big fish.

 

[dieselram94]

I just hope we get to the bottom of this.

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[DeepseekerADS]

Okay guys, first:

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And then, who is this Ms. Lerner?

(Too bad it is not "Learner"......)

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