Point ID help

[sosa961]

I've been trying to find out what I have here on the bottom left, and the bottom right. The latter looks like it could have been some type of knife? Any suggestions?


Also found this small arrowhead (about the size of a quarter) last week..


All found in NC...

 

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[ncnurseryman]

That is a sweet point you found. Don't know about the others. I'm never sure about quartz.

 

[SCrocks]

Some nice finds! Top left is perhaps a heavily resharpened Morrow Mountain. Bottom right looks to have the base broke off so it would be hard to tell but likely would have been a Guilford imo. The nice serrated point I usually just call a Palmer but could be a Taylor. In S.C. some might call a Van Lot. Lot of quartz guessing your from around Gaston County?

 

[sosa961]

You got it! Well done, you definitely know your stuff. I have a friend who hunts down in SC a lot too.. Down by Fishing Creek along the Catawba.

I clearly still have a lot of learning to do.. Any suggestions on books or anything I can study to learn more about these points?

 

[GatorBoy]

Nice finds that looks like a really nice quartz LeCroy.. At least that's what I would have called it.
It's hard to tell anything with the angle of that first photo.. That one the bottom left looks like a broken triangle turned sideways

 

[GatorBoy]

Most Stanley points have a pretty contracted stem compared to the width of the shoulders.
Yours is actually the widest part of the point.. Palmers have a straight base.

 

[SCrocks]

I've hunted York and Chester County nearly 40 years. Grew up on Lake Wylie. Looked some around Gaston County but not much. Look Fishing Creek some when you can catch the water down. Probably saw your friends foot prints a time or to. Overstreet Indian artifact id and price guide is pretty good. Some don't like it but the section on our area is pretty good. Just don't believe the price part to much. Check out Piedmont Archeology Society on line. Lot of stuff to click on and look at.

 

[GatorBoy]

This is a good book right here if you get a chance to pick one up

 

[ncnurseryman]

That is a good book with several photos of points etc., around NC. Its basically a PHD dissertation covering the sites that were excavated. Has some good date ranges and interesting depth ranges showing how deep some artifacts were found. I got the book too based on Gator's recommendation. Thanks.

 

[monsterrack]

The one in the last photo looks like a LaCroy like gator said, the base notch is just a little strange.A very nice find

 

[sosa961]

Thanks guys, I'm going to pick those up today, I've definitely got the bug.. SCRocks, I'll keep you updated on my finds in Chester County with my buddy. Gator, thanks again for the tips. HH

 

[GatorBoy]

H.H.!

 

[rock]

This is a good book right here if you get a chance to pick one up

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Where would you go to get that book GB? My region varies with the NC and TN. I dont have this book you have shown.

 

[NC field hunter]

Could also be a McCorkle point. I have found books that contradict each other on point types. It's a beauty of a bifurcate, no matter what you decide to call it!!

 

[ncnurseryman]

Rock: you can order it off Amazon.

 

[GatorBoy]

Sorry yeah Amazon would probably be the easiest.
I got mine as a gift from BirdpointGriswold.

 

[SCrocks]

That would be a good book to have. Roddney Peck also puts out some books about artifacts in the Piedmont. Google Peck Publishing. Here are a few palmers and taylors and a few variations. I believe the Taylor is a cross between a Hardaway and Palmer. Lecroy points are fairly scare in this area. Quartz Lecroys are really scare.

 

[GatorBoy]

Are you sure you don't have a few Pine Trees or Big Sandy's mixed in there?
Taylors and Hardaways are many thousands of years apart.. There's no way they are associated.

 

[GatorBoy]

Here is a nice hardaway for example






See how it has oracles flaring out to the side of the base

 

[SCrocks]

Nice Hardaway! Taylor side notch (Van Lott in S.C.) is beleived to be about the same age as Hardaway,