Please help ID this

[Brooks]

Hi, I am a new hand on coin, please help me to identify what is my findings below, thanks!

On this coin, it shows "SAMPLE SILVER COIN" and "NO CIRCULATION" in both Spanish and Chinese character...

 

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[LadyDigger]

This link (second photo on page)...shows the coin...but not with COIN SILVER SAMPLE on it...the actual coin as shown on your photo without those other characters....http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinText/Sp-milled.3.html<<<this is the real thing...yours is not....sorry!

Never saw a coin like that. Most sites I looked up are in Russian or Chinese and I can't read them LOL....

I found a few other coins with COIN SILVER SAMPLE CIRCULATION NO on them...but different pics on them...

Waiting to see what others can find...neat find!
Annmarie

 

[Wacker]

You have a Mexico Portrait 8 reales minted under Spanish Rule at the Mexico City Mint.

The assayer was "F.M". The Portrait is that of Charles III of Spain. Value depends on condition (grade): Range: $50 - $450.

 

[kg6yll]

Looks fake to me. I'm no expert though. Someone on the forum will know for sure.

 

[Nick A]

It is definitely NOT an original piece of eight. Could be a silver round or some kind of fantasy piece. Also definitely produced on more modern minting equipment. Looks very 20th century to me. Hope that helps.

 

[TeddyB1967]

It's not a "FAKE" as it has the word "Sample" on it so it was not intended to decieve or fool anyone.
It's a Reproduction Coin.

I will take time later and do a search to see what I can find out and post back if no one else comes up with anything before that.

 

[kg6yll]

It's not a "FAKE" as it has the word "Sample" on it so it was not intended to decieve or fool anyone.
It's a Reproduction Coin.

I will take time later and do a search to see what I can find out and post back if no one else comes up with anything before that.

Actually one of the defintions of fake is to simulate which means to create a likeness or model of.

 

[N.J.THer]

I would agree with Teddy. It is a sample and clearly stated at that. So it is an original copy of a silver coin. If you are asking if it is a real coin or not then no it is not a real coin. Does it have monitary value then yes to someone it is worth money and if it is made from real silver then it has a spot price value. No matter what it is still a neat find and very interesting.

Congrats

NJ

 

[El_Bandido]

that my friend is a spanish/chinese coin. they are normally found in treasure chests by pirates. the pirates used to hold the coins and kept them in their locked chest.

 

[Harley]

You'd better get it checked for lead, it's from China

 

[TeddyB1967]

Actually one of the defintions of fake is to simulate which means to create a likeness or model of.

"counterfeit" from "reproduction".

A "Reproduction" is a replica of a coin created to be similar to the genuine article, but is not intended to represent itself as a genuine coin. A number of artists create reproductions of coins for a variety of reasons. A very popular coin may be out of the reach of the average collector's budget, so they may instead choose to buy one of these reproductions, which are available at a small fraction of the cost of the real article.

A "Counterfeit" is a replica intended to fool collectors into thinking that they are buying a genuine coin. They are struck with the intent to defraud.

 

[ivan salis]

it is a clearly marked "reproduction" of a spanish coin 8 real coin --- so no its not an "original coin / real coin" -- but "real" originals are quite costly -- so they make copies for folks to buy -- since they are clearly maked "not for circulation" -- their not "fakes" in the normal meaning ---since their not trying to fool you into thinking its a "real" coin --- but rather a clearly marked copy.

 

[Brooks]

Thanks for all your inputs, especially SWR' s comments and detailed job to help us to understand this coin!!!

Conclusion, I think it is a "Part of a commemorative coin set from China"

Enjoy a nice weekend! SWR!

 

[SgtSki in MI]

I like the "sample die strike" theory as well.

HH,
SgtSki

 

[desertfox]

No matter what, it's a nice find and a keeper at that! Happy Hunting and welcome to Tnet Brooks........

Desertfox

 

[El_Bandido]

that is a spanish 2.00 coin! where did you find it?

 

[diggummup]

Good ID SWR!

Actually one of the defintions of fake is to simulate which means to create a likeness or model of.

"counterfeit" from "reproduction".

A "Reproduction" is a replica of a coin created to be similar to the genuine article, but is not intended to represent itself as a genuine coin. A number of artists create reproductions of coins for a variety of reasons. A very popular coin may be out of the reach of the average collector's budget, so they may instead choose to buy one of these reproductions, which are available at a small fraction of the cost of the real article.

A "Counterfeit" is a replica intended to fool collectors into thinking that they are buying a genuine coin. They are struck with the intent to defraud.

I knew what you meant myself.

 

[Brooks]

So, it is a "reproduction" coin with "commemorative" purpose, without intention to fool people that it is a genuine one, because it declares "sample" and "No circulation".

This is a collection of my grandpa, he got this from one of his Chinese friend. If you blow on its edge, you will hear silver whistles...... 8)

Thanks, ALL!

 

[karib2517]

i dont know