Pics of my Collection

[DigEmAll]

Here are some of the doodles from the cave.

Anyone know FINN from 1873 or Dellmon Moris from 1900?

The second one has my hiking buddy in it... so it was slightly edited.  It's looking over the cave from the entrance. The holes in the back only go back about ten more feet. We estimated the size to be about forty feet across, 60 feet deep and about 30 feet high at the center.

 

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[Neanderthal]

Dig, I really enjoy seeing the pictures, and sorry it took me so long to respond (i'm rather slow). Ok, first off...let's discuss the Clovis. I'm sorry, that being authentic is a very hard stretch for me. 1 - Obsidian isn't typically found where you state that is from. 2. Even where obsidian is plentiful, Clovis people didn't utilize it in Clovis manufacturing quite as frequently as they did other materials. Less homogenous materials was favored, and for good reason. 3. The form looks odd on it..I would dearly love to see a closer picture of it. I'm not questioning your Grandfather finding it. However, it's entirely possible that it was planted or used as seed. This is VERY common everywhere, and nobody is immune. I know of several obsidian pieces found around here locally at dams that a modern knapper planted. Also, some of the others pieces look very strange (like the cross shaped items). They have steep edge retouch which looks like it was done by a totally different knapper on the edges...retouch. But, it could just be the pictures too! It's hard to tell alot from photographs, and it's super easy to get fooled by them (wouldn't be the first time for me). Thanks for sharing, and I hope you aren't offended by my inquisitive nature.

 

[badandy]

You have a collection that I would be proud to call mine. Thanks for sharing.
badandy

 

[TreasureTales]

Holy crap DigEmAll, yours is by far the best personal collection I've ever seen. In fact, it surpasses many museum collections I've seen. Man oh man, what great stuff. I am so wanting to find something completely intact, most of what I find is broken or water tumbled and therefore not in the best condition. Your collection is ... well ... words fail to describe the quality, quantity and variety. Congrats on your efforts (and your father's and grandfather's) and on your collection.

The diamond-shaped points are quite similar to ones I have collected or been given which came from just east of my hometown (if I remember correctly).

The piece with the rocks cemented into the larger rock could be conglomerate. Why anyone would make a tool from it is beyond my comprehension, it's not a particularly stable rock.

Anyhow, thanks for posting the pix. Have you made any decisions about the future of your wonderful collection? IMHO, it would be a crying shame to ever piece it out. Sure, it could bring in a good return whole or pieced out, but the odds of any private party amassing such a collection again (unless through purchases) is probably slim. Something I hope you will consider carefully with many different scenarios in mind -- what its future will be. Do you have any children who are as interested in the collection as you? If not, please be sure to make plans for it and put those plans in your will. Geez, I'm still gasping after looking at those pix.

 

[nahabit]

Its impossible!!!! very very nice! very very respect!

 

[Salvager]

RESPECT.

NICE collection!!!!!!!!

Jesse

 

[kalpinro]

Holy S**T! WOW! Great stuff!!

 

[DigEmAll]

WOW... I made Best of T-Net?!?!  Was not expecting that!

Thanks guys!!!



Matt, to answer your questions...
1 -  Obsidian isn't typically found where you state that is from.

One of the other points (sadly, I have no clue which one) my dad was told by a researcher that the stone is only found in South Dakota, but the point was found in Georgia.  I would also like to point out the twenty of so other points that are made from obsidian that reside in the collection.  I also would point out that Stone Mountain (the second largest monolith in the world) is granite, another volcanic rock, and is located near Atlanta, Georgia.

2. Even where obsidian is plentiful, Clovis people didn't utilize it in Clovis manufacturing quite as frequently as they did other materials.  Less homogenous materials was favored, and for good reason. 

What reason is that?  Obsidian is a VERY hard none crystaline substance that flakes easily and cleanly.  It is STILL used to make surgical instruments for eye operations due to it be far superior to steel when it comes to holding a edge.  I don't see a lot of chert being used these days! LOL

3.  The form looks odd on it.

The form looks almost perfect according to almost everyone that has looked at it and handled it.  Even a couple of researchers from the University of Tennessee have looked at it.  While neither offically "Authenticated" it, they also did not question it's authenticity or the location it was found either.

I would dearly love to see a closer picture of it.
Here you go.

 

[DigEmAll]

Couple more...

 

[PBK]

Quote: Obsidian isn't typically found where you state that is from.

America's ancient peoples traveled and traded over vast distances, so the fact that a point is made from material naturally occuring only at some faraway location is not necessarily a sufficient reason to question its authenticity. For example, at the Spiro mounds in Oklahoma, archaeologists have found varieties of colored flint unique to New Mexico, conch shells from the Gulf Coast, native copper from the Great Lakes, mica from the Carolinas, and obsidian from Mexico.

 

[diggemall]

Impressive collection Dig !

That obsidian point is nothing short of awesome. I can only imagine that it was more likely used for ritual and shaman type purposes than for "work" - it's just to "magical" looking.

BTW - nobody's EVER gonna confuse the two of us: YOU find stuff !


Diggem'

 

[DigEmAll]

LOL... I'm sure you find stuff too Diggem!  I'm just glad you are a nice, and respectable guy... who cares if someone confuses you for me.   

And thanks to you too PBK, that is exactly the point I was trying to get across.

 

[Bavaria Mike]

Fantastic collection, thanks for posting! I'll be jumping up and down when I find a point here in Germany. HH, Mike

 

[Matejko]

This is amazing !!! Great stuff, CONGRATS !!!
Took my breath away, and throwed me on my knees.
Really impressive family tradition.

I have to (I must) give the link to my friends at Polish site, to let them look at the pics. Hope, you don't mind, DigEmAll?
Your login speaks for itself ! CONGRATS AGAIN !!!

Pozdrawiam Matejko

 

[ericwt]

DigEmAll: WOW,that is an impressive collection! I like arrow heads and stuff but I have never found any.

ericwt

 

[pgill]

Digemall,

That is one incredible collection of arrows. It does not matter if one or two are fake, or touched up by knappers.... your collection is fantastic.

Keep up the great work Digemall....

God bless
Peter

 

[DigEmAll]

Thanks again guys!

 

[iwannafindsome]

awesome collection i love it
i have a small collection of personal finds but not as nice as yours.ill take some pictures of mine and post it sooner or later.

 

[Postalrevnant]

WOW that is one large nice collection.

Congratulations,

Postalrevnant

 

[DigEmAll]

Thanks guys!

And Iwannfindson, I would personally love to see your pics!

Matejko, you can link it if you like, I don't mind.
(Sorry it took so long for me to tell you that, I missed your post.)