"patented" piece of metal -------SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

[je177]

"patented" piece of metal -------SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

I dug this piece of metal a while back in southeastern MA. It has several dates and numbers on it. It says "pantented" on it as well. it is about three inches long. It's about the thickness of a dime as well. I believe it has a copper core. The dime is in there for scale. I attempted to search patents but had no success. any idea what it could be? thanks.

J

 

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[pegleglooker]

Re: "patented" piece of metal

I wonder if the top # is the patent # Worth a look see...

PLL

 

[Blacksheep]

Re: "patented" piece of metal

I went to Google patent, checked all patents dated Sept. 10 1846, here`s the list.
(This may not be accurate or complete)

http://www.google.com/patents?id=wR...&as_miny_is=1846&as_maxm_is=9&as_maxy_is=1846

http://www.google.com/patents?id=wB...&as_miny_is=1846&as_maxm_is=9&as_maxy_is=1846

http://www.google.com/patents?id=wx...846&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1#PPA1,M1

http://www.google.com/patents?id=xB...axy_is=1846&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1

http://www.google.com/patents?id=xR...&as_miny_is=1846&as_maxm_is=9&as_maxy_is=1846


I did attempt to cross this with the next date, Aug. 24 1858 but came up with so many pages/numbers to check, it could be done but it would very time consuming. One of the above may be a starting point.

 

[Pangus]

Re: "patented" piece of metal

I spent waaay too much time on google patents...

okay, with the bazillion patents out there....I have narrowed the plate down to be a serial number plate for....trumpets please....something...

my mind went numb...it has either something to do with...

sewing machines...
weaving machines/looms...
stoves....
planting/plowing tools...
or wire manufacture/handling...

I got lost....


sorry

 

[LadyDigger]

Re: "patented" piece of metal

Here's a cut and paste of a news article.....

And with the links Blacksheep provided...I found this: http://www.google.com/patents?id=z75MAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=us+patent+934401

Same number on your piece, but the date does not match!

 

[Blacksheep]

Re: "patented" piece of metal

Here's a cut and paste of a news article.....

And with the links Blacksheep provided...I found this: http://www.google.com/patents?id=z75MAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=us+patent+934401

Same number on your piece, but the date does not match!

I spent an awful lot of time on that one, hoping the top number on the plate was in fact, the patent number and tried to tie it into that machine. The only thing i am rather sure of is that i have much more respect for lawyers, well patent lawyers anyways.

It was fun however, to read some of those patents.

(i also attempted several number combo`s as well 9344, 9,344 93440a1, 9344-oa1, etc )

 

[NGE]

Re: "patented" piece of metal

The area where you found this piece or what was there "before" could help in I.D.'ing what it could be from.......NGE (T)

 

[Blacksheep]

Re: "patented" piece of metal

Every once and awhile i have a "duh" moment, in this case it didnt dawn on me to search out some of the products the patents apply too. I pulled up the HOWE sewing machine info provided by Ron & Ann and here it is.

http://www.ismacs.net/howe/howecompany.html

Scroll down a bit and you will see this "Shuttle cover plate", its to close to be coincidental imho.

EDIT: Found this as well "The slide plates are brass and have various patent dates listed, the earliest being Sept 10 1846 and the last one being Jan 30 1872."

http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/howe.htm

 

[LadyDigger]

Re: "patented" piece of metal

Every once and awhile i have a "duh" moment, in this case it didnt dawn on me to search out some of the products the patents apply too. I pulled up the HOWE sewing machine info provided by Ron & Ann and here it is.

http://www.ismacs.net/howe/howecompany.html

Scroll down a bit and you will see this "Shuttle cover plate", its to close to be coincidental imho.

EDIT: Found this as well "The slide plates are brass and have various patent dates listed, the earliest being Sept 10 1846 and the last one being Jan 30 1872."

http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/howe.htm

Great Job there! Looks like you made an ID!!!

 

[je177]

Re: "patented" piece of metal

Wow! Great ID Blacksheep! I totally did not think this Would get solved. That's great work. People on these forums never cease to amaze me. Thanks for the help.

 

[Blacksheep]

Re: "patented" piece of metal

I love the collective effort to ID items here on TNET.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TNETTERS !

 

[je177]

Re: "patented" piece of metal --------SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

I wanted to change the titled of this post as SOLVED so that people can see how great the research was to help me out. I have no doubt that it is solved. The pictures look exactly like what I have and the dates in the external link show the exact dates written on mine. I'm still so impressed at the tnet'ers research skills. I tried to come up with an answer on my own and kept falling short. Thanks again!


HH,

J

 

[trikikiwi]

Re: "patented" piece of metal -------SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

That ID is very impressive Blacksheep Are you part Terrier?

Mike

 

[treasurefiend]

Re: "patented" piece of metal -------SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

That ID is very impressive Blacksheep Are you part Terrier?

Mike

LOL

 

[woody50]

Re: "patented" piece of metal -------SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

Wow, great work blacksheep, really great finding this!

 

[Pangus]

Re: "patented" piece of metal -------SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

well, sewing machines was the first thing on my list....i want a tenth of a point credit...

 

[curbdiggercarl57]

Re: "patented" piece of metal -------SOLVED!!!!!!!!!

These guys are good, scary good.