🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Part of a needle valve?

[invent4hir]

This brass artifact that measures 2 1/4" long was found not far from where I believe a 19th century one-room school house once stood, and where a LC and a Lincoln Logs RR Engineer figure were found. The fine threads, grooves in the knob to help fingers grip better, and tip on the opposite end made me think it is part of a needle valve. All IDs welcome.

 

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[pepperj]

This brass artifact that measures 2 1/4" long was found not far from where I believe a 19th century one-room school house once stood, and where a LC and a Lincoln Logs RR Engineer figure were found. The fine threads, grooves in the knob to help fingers grip better, and tip on the opposite end made me think it is part of a needle valve. All IDs welcome.

Could be an needle valve from an oiler.

 

[ncsuwolf]

Could be a needle valve from an oiler.View attachment 2163814

Not disagreeing with the I’d, but it has a 6 sided nut which means ~1930 or later

 

[ticndig]

lantern pump ?

 

[ncsuwolf]

lantern pump ?View attachment 2163828

Is the tube/shaft hollow? If not then lantern pump goes out the window.

 

[ncsuwolf]

Is the tube/shaft hollow? If not then lantern pump goes out the window.

Based on my understanding….very well Could be wrong

 

[pepperj]

Not disagreeing with the I’d, but it has a 6 sided nut which means ~1930 or later

Sorry but that date has to be thrown our with the dishwater.

The hex head was developed as far back as the very early 1830's (James Nasmith) , and the square continued mainly in the production of agricultural implements. In Australia the implement manufacturers bought square mild steel bars and made their own, say into the 30's (Depression).

 

[ncsuwolf]

Sorry but that date has to be thrown our with the dishwater.

The hex head was developed as far back as the very early 1830's (James Nasmith) , and the square continued mainly in the production of agricultural implements. In Australia the implement manufacturers bought square mild steel bars and made their own, say into the 30's (Depression).

Don’t disagree with when it was invented, but for my experience (and a lot of it is with ag related items) 6 sided nuts/bolts weren’t common until the early/mid 1900s. Once again, basing my knowledge on farm implements and when they were made, but don’t think I’m too far off.

 

[pepperj]

Don’t disagree with when it was invented, but for my experience (and a lot of it is with ag related items) 6 sided nuts/bolts weren’t common until the early/mid 1900s. Once again, basing my knowledge on farm implements and when they were made, but don’t think I’m too far off.

This is an interesting read.

Also there's reference to the civil war.

"In Ian Hogg's book "Weapons of the Civil War" there is a photograph captioned "Union 13-inch Siege Mortars, outside Yorktown in April 1862". In it one can clearly see the carriages are assembled with hex nuts (and square head bolts). Square nuts were used also, some are visible holding the straps down over the trunnions."

The L&S reference is 1918.


Post in thread 'When were hex nuts & bolts first used in the US?' https://www.practicalmachinist.com/...bolts-first-used-in-the-us.113448/post-419840

 

[ncsuwolf]

This is an interesting read.

Also there's reference to the civil war.

"In Ian Hogg's book "Weapons of the Civil War" there is a photograph captioned "Union 13-inch Siege Mortars, outside Yorktown in April 1862". In it one can clearly see the carriages are assembled with hex nuts (and square head bolts). Square nuts were used also, some are visible holding the straps down over the trunnions."

The L&S reference is 1918.


Post in thread 'When were hex nuts & bolts first used in the US?' https://www.practicalmachinist.com/...bolts-first-used-in-the-us.113448/post-419840

You win….not arguing with you, just stating that 6 vs 4 was more prevalent the later you go.

 

[invent4hir]

Could be an needle valve from an oiler.View attachment 2163814

pepperj, thanks I'll look into that. Since the property was farm land up to the 1950s, I wonder if it is from a hit-n-miss engine.

 

[invent4hir]

Is the tube/shaft hollow? If not then lantern pump goes out the window.

ncsuwolf, the shaft is solid...

 

[invent4hir]

Next time I detect the property, I'll ask the elderly owner if he recalls any implement with an oiler. It could possibly be from a carburetor.