🥇 BANNER Originally posted on the "What Is It" board for an ID .. This is crazy!

[creskol]

I was trying out my new Legend today and found this coin. It was identified by Red-Coat as being a 4 dinero coin of Henry III (1390-1406). Kingdom of Castile and Leon (Spanish states). How it ended up in the fields of Central Virginia is a mystery to me.

 

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[creskol]

Great find.

Agreed.... Banner.

dunno how this snuck by me, but what an odd and awesome find! Yes many other countries copper coins were used here in early US history, shoot even all the way into the 1800s. things like the slave trade an spice trade ended up having coins from all sorts of areas make it here. I have found some weird ones like a 1802 1 duit coin, and a 1680 spanish copper cob

Thank you all! 🤠

 

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[Trezurehunter]

Very nice. Now that's getting back there in age !

 

[creskol]

Very nice. Now that's getting back there in age !

Thank You .. It sure is! It is the oldest coin I have found.

 

[nagant]

well maybe this from what redcoat said...https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces123160.html made of billon? had to look that up,( Billon is a mixture of silver and base metals, usually copper.)

 

[Red-Coat]

well maybe this from what redcoat said...https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces123160.html made of billon? had to look that up,( Billon is a mixture of silver and base metals, usually copper.)

Yes. I originally said it was a Castile & Leon billon issue and thought it was most likely Henry (Enrique) III... then added that it could also be a slightly later Henry (Enrique) IV, which used essentially the same design. There really isn't enough detail to be absolutely sure, but a bit of cleaning may help:

✅ SOLVED - I know it's a long shot, but might somebody know what this is?

I found it and a gold-gilded Virginia button within 10 feet of each other.

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[WannaDig3687]

What a rate find on this side of the pond. Very crazy! Congrats!

 

[creskol]

What a rate find on this side of the pond. Very crazy! Congrats!

Thank you, WannaDig ..

 

[DanMcG]

That's an awesome find Creskol, if you decide to clean it some, please share it with us.

 

[creskol]

Yes. I originally said it was a Castile & Leon billon issue and thought it was most likely Henry (Enrique) III... then added that it could also be a slightly later Henry (Enrique) IV, which used essentially the same design. There really isn't enough detail to be absolutely sure, but a bit of cleaning may help:

✅ SOLVED - I know it's a long shot, but might somebody know what this is?

I found it and a gold-gilded Virginia button within 10 feet of each other.

www.treasurenet.com

That's an awesome find Creskol, if you decide to clean it some, please share it with us.

Thank you, Dan. I am working on cleaning it. I will post a new photo soon.

 

[RatherBeDigging]

Cool find, but, let's not go "Oak Island" crazy here. It could have been lost 50 years ago by a kid taking his Dad's coin collection to school for show and tell day. There really is no way to tell when something like that was dropped or the source for that matter.

Shame there's no actual Sherman and Mr.Peabody wabac machine because I'm sure we all love to know how that got there.

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Congratulations on achieving BANNER #2 creskol, what an historic find!

 

[villagenut]

Glad this made it up top, super old for this side of the world. Well deserved

 

[creskol]

Congratulations on achieving BANNER #2 creskol, what an historic find!

Glad this made it up top, super old for this side of the world. Well deserved

Thank you very much. 🤠

 

[T L Kott]

I was trying out my new Legend today and found this coin. It was identified by Red-Coat as being a 4 dinero coin of Henry III (1390-1406). Kingdom of Castile and Leon (Spanish states). How it ended up in the fields of Central Virginia is a mystery to me.View attachment 2081482View attachment 2081483

Outstanding find Sir. Truly unique [for America]

 

[T L Kott]

Note that I couldn't be absolutely sure and it might be a slightly later Henry IV coin (from 1471-1474). Either way, it's an extraordinary find for the location.

Good ID Red. How common is this coin in England?

 

[T L Kott]

The colonists here used all kinds of European coinage. A copper was worth... a copper, no matter where or when minted. Thats why the fields in Virginia are often full of old Spanish and other coinage seemingly unrelated to the date of initial European occupation. Its a great find, but 99.99% likely it was used or hoarded right up into the 1700s. Plus carbon dating only works on organic material.

Plus we already have a date Henry the 3rd or the 4th.

 

[Red-Coat]

Good ID Red. How common is this coin in England?

Thanks.

Given the nature of trading relationships between European countries, Spanish and other coins from this period turn up from time to time. But this particular coin, although not inherently rare, is relatively obscure and would be an unusual find here.

 

[CRUSADER]

Thanks.

Given the nature of trading relationships between European countries, Spanish and other coins from this period turn up from time to time. But this particular coin, although not inherently rare, is relatively obscure and would be an unusual find here.

Agreed, not seen or heard of one coming out.

 

[iAmMike]

Incredible!

 

[THing4CSA]

Congrats on the super find! We all hope one day to find something as amazing as that! ;-)