OMG! Please tell me this is what I think it is!

[Breezie]

Hey Ya'll,
This afternoon I went back to the area where I found the 1863 Springfield trigger guard(post: What Kind of Gun). It is also the same area where I have found numerous CW buttons, camp relics, and the 17th Century Spectacle buckle. Pleeeeaseeee tell me this is a Civil War button. Any information would be appreciated. The first photo is not very good because I took it with my cell phone (and shaking other hand.) Breezie

 

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[umrgolf]

I have a book called "The Battlefields Of The Civil War" and your button is shown in there.....

Mmmm, Trader, that is extremely interesting, and I can tell it is the same button because of the outside flange(3-pc.) What does your book say about the button or is it just a pic? I wonder why this particular button was included in a book called 'The Battlefields of the Civil War, ' if it is supposed to be 1875-1880ish? This opens another chapter. Thank you so much, Breezie

The button Trader posted on your thread is the same as the first buttons Timekiller posted earlier.. There were quite a few 3-piece NC buttons during the Civil War. Unfortunately, if there were any possibility of your button being a CW button, Harry Ridgeway and the other button experts would have mentioned it when documenting the backmark timeframe of your button. Another way to tell the post-war buttons is the plain-lettered script.. The ones that are period have the little "hooks" on the edges of the letters. (can't remember the proper terminology) Like the others and myself have said, still a really awesome find... and quite honestly, probably just as rare to dig as a CW era NC button.

 

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[Breezie]

I have a book called "The Battlefields Of The Civil War" and your button is shown in there.....

Mmmm, Trader, that is extremely interesting, and I can tell it is the same button because of the outside flange(3-pc.) What does your book say about the button or is it just a pic? I wonder why this particular button was included in a book called 'The Battlefields of the Civil War, ' if it is supposed to be 1875-1880ish? This opens another chapter. Thank you so much, Breezie

The button Trader posted on your thread is the same as the first buttons Timekiller posted earlier.. There were quite a few 3-piece NC buttons during the Civil War. Unfortunately, if there were any possibility of your button being a CW button, Harry Ridgeway and the other button experts would have mentioned it when documenting the backmark timeframe of your button. Another way to tell the post-war buttons is the plain-lettered script.. The ones that are period have the little "hooks" on the edges of the letters. (can't remember the proper terminology) Like the others and myself have said, still a really awesome find... and quite honestly, probably just as rare to dig as a CW era NC button.

Thank you again Golf for your post & information, especially about the lettering; I was not aware of that. I love this forum; it's such a plethora of information. Yes, I'm convinced it is post-CW. It's amazing how 10 yrs. or so can take you from a Mercedes to a Pinto, well, maybe not a Pinto, but you know what I mean. I'm headed back out today in the same area . . .Mmm, maybe I'll find something from old Gen. Bobbie Lee! LOL (Well, you gotta have high hopes & a positive attitude!) Breezie

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I have a book called "The Battlefields Of The Civil War" and your button is shown in there.....

Unless its the same backmark, its not the same button.

 

[traderoftreasures]

I have a book called "The Battlefields Of The Civil War" and your button is shown in there.....

Unless its the same backmark, its not the same button.

I figured that out after a little futher research....

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Another way to tell the post-war buttons is the plain-lettered script.. The ones that are period have the little "hooks" on the edges of the letters. (can't remember the proper terminology)

They are called serifs. Yes her button backmark letters do not have serifs. Serif lettering was used by some companies into the early 2oth century. As you said Breezies cool button has more modern lettering font.. Very nice post CW button. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serif

 

[umrgolf]

Another way to tell the post-war buttons is the plain-lettered script.. The ones that are period have the little "hooks" on the edges of the letters. (can't remember the proper terminology)

They are called serifs. Yes her button backmark letters do not have serifs. Serif lettering was used by some companies into the early 2oth century. As you said Breezies cool button has more modern lettering font.. Very nice post CW button. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serif

thank you

 

[DirtyMike]

Re: It's still a neat find

There are actually several 3 piece buttons used during the civil war. Most were what is called a "staff officers button". The name speaks for itself. But this particular button is post war for sure. I asked a few of what I consider button exsperts including "William Leigh" as mentioned in another post and they all said the same thing. Most likely 1870 to 1880 ish. Still a great button and looks good too.

Same thing happened to me but with a SC button. Popped it out of the ground and did a dance not knowing that SC civil war buttons were never 3 piece design. Then I wanted to know what it was doing in a civil war site. Oh well.

I did not know NCs had 3 piece also. First one I have ever seen dug, but not a lot of NC buttons down this way.

I still say that is a cool button

 

[DirtyMike]

Make sure that you coat it with a little olive oil and that you get all the lemon juice off. The acids in the lemon juice will continue to eat away and corode this button after time. If you rinse it completely, dry it, and give them a light coat of oil it will be just fine. Cool button.

Okay Gang, here is a pic after the first cleaning. I soaked it in lemon juice for about a minute. It probably could have stayed longer, but I was somewhat hesitant to leave it too long. Again, thank you for all the nice post. Breezie

 

[Digger54]

For Breezie, your NC's evil sister.

Had my button tray out this evening and thought you would get a kick out of my dance for nothing button that i mentioned earlier. Does the backmark look familiar?

Personally, I no longer use olive oil on anything after it turned two of my buttons very dark. I now use pure mineral oil.

 

[umrgolf]

Re: For Breezie, your NC's evil sister.

Had my button tray out this evening and thought you would get a kick out of my dance for nothing button that i mentioned earlier. Does the backmark look familiar?

Personally, I no longer use olive oil on anything after it turned two of my buttons very dark. I now use pure mineral oil.

this is definitely much easier on the buttons than olive oil.

There are actually several 3 piece buttons used during the civil war. Most were what is called a "staff officers button". The name speaks for itself. But this particular button is post war for sure. I asked a few of what I consider button exsperts including "William Leigh" as mentioned in another post and they all said the same thing. Most likely 1870 to 1880 ish. Still a great button and looks good too.

Same thing happened to me but with a SC button. Popped it out of the ground and did a dance not knowing that SC civil war buttons were never 3 piece design. Then I wanted to know what it was doing in a civil war site. Oh well.

I did not know NCs had 3 piece also. First one I have ever seen dug, but not a lot of NC buttons down this way.

I still say that is a cool button

did you read what digger54 wrote here? there were zero SC 3-piece buttons manufactured during the CW.

 

[Digger54]

Yipe!

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did you read what digger54 wrote here? there were zero SC 3-piece buttons manufactured during the CW.

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You missed the part about where I said except SC25 and SC26. But then again I missed that part too. In my defense I was told that by a fellow digger without following it up. Now looking at Albert's my statement is obviously incorrect. I'll go stand in the corner now.

 

[umrgolf]

Re: Yipe!


did you read what digger54 wrote here? there were zero SC 3-piece buttons manufactured during the CW.

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You missed the part about where I said except SC25 and SC26. But then again I missed that part too. In my defense I was told that by a fellow digger without following it up. Now looking at Albert's my statement is obviously incorrect. I'll go stand in the corner now.
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sounded like his reply was geared at making it seem like you didn't know there were ANY 3-pc buttons since he didn't mention the 25 & 26.. and I was told that there were none by an "Expert"

 

[KLGourley]

Nice find! It cleaned up pretty darn good too! Very cool!

 

[ark turtle]

Looks real to me...do you have any doubts?

Oh, No, I don't have any doubts of it being real; I phrased that wrong and will change it. I wanted to know if it is a CIVIL WAR era button. Breezie

 

[ark turtle]

Looks real to me...do you have any doubts?

Oh, No, I don't have any doubts of it being real; I phrased that wrong and will change it. I wanted to know if it is A CIVIL WAR era button. Breezier

Well, I don't know anything about buttons. That picture of Breezie
sure looks nice.. and i looked with both eyes... Nice smile also...

 

[Breezie]

Once again, thanks for all of the post and research. Digger, your SC button is nice, and I can understand the 'happy dance,' but I guess you and I belong to the ' I flipped it over and saw Jacob Reeds Club.' Golf, I use face cream on my buttons, which is probably 90% mineral oil. Ark, thanks for the compliment . . .Mmmm, glad you didn't look with one eye! Breezie