Old Sterling, Copper and some Modern Relics !

MUD(S.W.A.T)

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Hello all,

What a day...!! ;D It was a Long day for me but I got out and had a lot of fun. :D I got up around 10am ??? ::) I promised myself I would set my alarm and freeking go Metal Detecting. ;D :headbang: So I did, the first site I went to I hunted about 1.5 hours. I did not find much there a "wheat penny" :icon_scratch: but it's OK I had another back up site. :thumbsup:

The next site I started hunting and found a clad quarter. :o So my hopes spiked a little, I continued to hunt with nothing much. I was getting a little upset... I hunted some more, moved to the side yard and dug a nice piece of sterling silver. :o ;D :D Marked and everything, its been cut or broken but its still a nice piece of marked sterling. ;D I checked for the head but could not find it.... >:(

Hunting some more not finding much I got a nice penny signal in the front of the house. It was a nice IH penny. ;D :o Looked around some more in the rest of the yard, not finding much. I moved to the front where I found the IH and I found another IH. ;D :D Then another penny signal ending up being a cool old razor. :thumbsup: Dated 1912, I did not expect this at all... ;D Some how in today's hunt I found the lock its not that old it seem to say pat. 1992-1994. :icon_scratch: It looks a lot older than that but I guess not. :dontknow:

Oh well, I was hoping for more Silver Coins :( but could not find any. I got skunked with a few a 1965 quarter and a 1967 dime or two. ??? :blob8: Maybe at the next site I'll hit some more silver coins... :D :wink: Here are some Pictures I hope you all enjoy them. Few... :tongue3: This is a lot of work ! :D

Keep @ it and HH!! :D ;D
 

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I have more pictures ;D

Oh if anyone can appraise the Razor that would be cool... :icon_scratch: ;D

Keep @ it and HH!!
 

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Nice digs Mud. :thumbsup:
Way to go on the coins. That lock has to be older than that. I have two of those with a very similar "X" pattern on the side. (one pictured)
Here is the info PBK gave me on mine:
"Warded brass padlocks of this design were made around 1890-1910. A virtually identical example appears in the 1895 Montgomery Ward & Co. catalog. Identifying the maker could be difficult without any marks, however, as several companies produced very similar locks— among them, Slaymaker-Barry."

Congrats,
MM
 

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nice stuff Mud! :thumbsup: silver is silver, no matter what form it takes! way to go!
 

Here's a 1902 ad for a Gem Cutlery's Razor
http://cgi.ebay.com/1902-AD-FOR-GEM...photoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262

In 1898 Jerry Reichard started the Gem Cutlery Co. in New York and patented the company's first product, the Gem Safety Razor. The razor was so successful that the company changed its name to the Gem Safety Razor Co. in 1900. The company merged with Star and Ever-Ready to become the American Safety Razor Corp. in 1919.
Source: http://kovels.blogspot.com/2008/08/gem-safety-razor.html

And check out "RAZ 056" here: http://countryjoescollectiblestuff.com/raz-02.html
I think this one is yours.
Don....

Don.....
 

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Looks like a cool hunt to me! I hunted 5 hours today and all I got was a 40's wheat...

Nice Indian & a real cool lock, spoon, & razor!!!

Very nice, Mud!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

Thanks everyone, and thanks a lot for the info !!

You'll have better hunts kimsdad. ;D

Keep @ It and HH!!
 

What wonderful finds your sterling serving piece resembles the Fluery Pattern 1909 by Gorham Silver http://www.silverpattern.com/FLEURY.htm or the Cambridge pattern 1899 by Gorham Silver http://www.silverpattern.com/CAMBRIDGE.htm very simular the tulip type design is what is not matching I am thinking looking into Gorham or silversmiths that coppied thier pattern. I am really thinking this piece to be the cambridge pattern but couldnt find a better picture of the base where the actual piece that has broken off was connected.
 

I am pretty sure it is the Cambridge 1899 If you see in Picture 3 It has what i think is the Gorham (G) Trade Mark after the Lion and Anchor. (Two Marks that mean Silver) Then it says Pat. 1899, so I am pretty sure it is Cambridge then.

Thanks again, and thanks for the info.

Keep @ It and HH!!
 

I am puzzled by the supposed hallmarks. They are not true hallmarks or they would be stamped with shaped boxes around them. The Lion means its silver, the Anchor is the Birmingham assayers mark & the last 'letter' is the date mark. See how a real hallmark looks:

http://www.925-1000.com/dlBirmingham.html

Sterling clearly means its silver but the hallmarks are a gimmick (I guess)

PS,

Just noticed your lions the wrong way around, so seems deliberate
 

What is the name to the right of Pat 1899 (1-2 inches to the right)?
 

It is engraved in the front Pearl, the only other marking on the back is E.H Hopkins... :icon_scratch: I presume the engraver, ROTFL :D You don't have to have a box around it. Lol, that was caused by the stamp, newer stamps don't have a box. If you look at other Gorham sterling and other makers on EBay they don't have boxes. :icon_study: I studied this for some time trying to learn marks and they both mean silver, today. The anchor used to be sideways but this changed over time. This was all changed mostly because of Gorham.

Keep @ it and HH!!

PS: Here are some links that explains hallmarks.

http://www.modernsilver.com/basichallmarks.htm

http://www.christeningsilver.com/info/sterling-silver-guide.aspx
 

MUD(S.W.A.T) said:
It is engraved in the front Pearl, the only other marking on the back is E.H Hopkins... :icon_scratch: I presume the engraver, ROTFL :D You don't have to have a box around it. Lol, that was caused by the stamp, newer stamps don't have a box. If you look at other Gorham sterling and other makers on EBay they don't have boxes. :icon_study: I studied this for some time trying to learn marks and they both mean silver, today. The anchor used to be sideways but this changed over time.

Keep @ it and HH!!

http://www.theassayoffice.co.uk/date_letters.html

Without the shaped boxes there would be no way of pinning down what year it was.

http://www.silvercollection.it/gorham.html
However, having just realised this is not meant to be an English hallmark (although very similar, to confuse people, maybe). I take back what I said. I have no clue on US marks even ones that closely copy ours.
 

CRUSADER said:
MUD(S.W.A.T) said:
It is engraved in the front Pearl, the only other marking on the back is E.H Hopkins... :icon_scratch: I presume the engraver, ROTFL :D You don't have to have a box around it. Lol, that was caused by the stamp, newer stamps don't have a box. If you look at other Gorham sterling and other makers on EBay they don't have boxes. :icon_study: I studied this for some time trying to learn marks and they both mean silver, today. The anchor used to be sideways but this changed over time.

Keep @ it and HH!!

http://www.theassayoffice.co.uk/date_letters.html

Without the shaped boxes there would be no way of pinning down what year it was.

http://www.silvercollection.it/gorham.html
However, having just realised this is not meant to be an English hallmark (although very similar, to confuse people, maybe). I take back what I said. I have no clue on US marks even ones that closely copy ours.

Your basically right it is an American Company Copying English Hallmarks for looks and likely to confuse people. This is how Gorham did their mark. See this link near the end, http://www.modernsilver.com/basichallmarks.htm

Keep @ it and HH!!
 

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