✅ SOLVED Old rosette but what type?

[DiggerKid2003]

Found an old rosette at a field we found plenty of civil war artifacts including an eagle plate and a staff officer button. Can anyone tell me the type and age?

 

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[creskol]

It's a bullseye rosette. If it is lead backed, it is of the Civil War era.

 

[DiggerKid2003]

Thanks for the help. It is missing the lead in the back.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Military horse-harness rosettes didn't have designs on the rings and in the grooves -- like your does. If its back has no trace of lead/solder or iron, it cannot be dated to a narrow time range. Please show us the back.

 

[DiggerKid2003]

I did find a tnet post from 2010 where someone had the same rosette http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/m...1850s-union-army-bullseye-bridle-rosette.html. Anyway, here is the back

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

That's certainly the lead/solder-filled type, with a "bowl" in the back's center, which means it dates from the 1840s/50s/60s. But because it has decorations on the rings on its front, it definitely is not a Military rosette. The US Artillery "Bullseye" rosette has rings, but no decorations on the rings. See the photo showing one, below.

 

[creskol]

That's certainly the lead/solder-filled type, with a "bowl" in the back's center, so it dates to the 1840s/50s/60s. But with decorations on its front, it is definitely not Military. The actual US Artillery "Bullseye" rosettes have rings but no decorations on the rings.

That is very true ...hence my statement "it is of the Civil War era" as opposed to saying it was a Civil War military rosette. Perhaps I should have elaborated on that a little more, but that's where I fail miserably most of the time. I could never have been a teacher.

(One other note worth mentioning is, the term "bullseye" isn't unique to artillery rosettes, just like accoutrements "of the era" with stars on them are not unique to Texas or Mississippi. Sometimes though, it is difficult to delineate where the overlap starts and where it stops, leaving a subjective gray area up to interpretation.)