Old ring Located on treasure coast beach

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Tenderfoot
Jan 20, 2020
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Central New Jersey
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I located a very thin detailed woman’s ring with an unknown white oval stone mounted in a heart setting. Not magnetic. It was in a fresh shell pile that was gone the next day. Wreck off golf course.
Second trip here. I now know what they mean when they say the sands move constantly.
I was at Fredrick Douglas on Saturday near high tide. Worked below the insane cut until it was unworkable. Left to use restroom and to eat returning about an hour and a half later. Big mistake!!!!
The 7 foot plus (I’m 6’5”) dropped down to 2’6”to4’with the lower beach filled back in adding several feet.
Met a diver from the 80’s who was wearing a gold coin necklace. He found the coin on the 1715 wreck site off the same beach.
He said it is very old and looks like it could be from the wreck. He suggested I get it looked at at a local specialty shop that deals with 1715 items.
Have not made it there yet still hitting all of the beaches, time limited.
Any help identifying would be much appreciated.
Will be here another week hitting as many spots as I can. Any tips would be appreciated.
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Is that sand on the edges of ring inside or do u think other stones may have been set in the extra holes?
 

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It still had sand on it.
The other cutouts look decorative.
Looks like a possible markers mark in the photo where I’m holding the ring.
Haven’t been able to make it out yet.
 

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The stone is claw-set, so I think not from the 1700s. Claw settings didn't come into use until the late 1800s and, before that, cabochon stones were usually bezel-mounted or gypsy-mounted but not via claws or prongs.
 

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I agree, this is not from any 1715 wrecks, most likely a 20th century drop, and probably made in the last fifty years.
 

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The stone is claw-set, so I think not from the 1700s. Claw settings didn't come into use until the late 1800s and, before that, cabochon stones were usually bezel-mounted or gypsy-mounted but not via claws or prongs.

Its called a "prong" setting.

And beings you are from the U.K. you should know these settings have been around and used for eons.

Here is one from your neighborhood dated from 14th century.

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Nice Find! If the stone is opal, you might want to soak it in Mineral oil to see if any of the color comes back. Soaking Opals in Mineral oil tend to keep the stone from fracturing as easy and also can bring out the color in the stone. Hope this helps?
 

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Simple rings of this design were popular in the 1980's in the USA. I think they are opal? I wouldn't expect them to have decent monitory value.
 

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Its called a "prong" setting.

And beings you are from the U.K. you should know these settings have been around and used for eons.

Here is one from your neighborhood dated from 14th century.


Nope. The ring you pictured is indeed 15th Century but the setting is correctly known as a "scalloped cusp" setting. It's properly described as such in the listing from Christie's auction house where it was sold last year.

https://www.christies.com/lotfinder...px?from=salesummary&intObjectID=6240556&lid=1

By contrast, the OP's ring has a 'claw' setting which does not predate the late 1800s. In America those are known as 'prong' settings, having been popularised by Tiffany, and in the UK that term is now also used alongside our original term 'claw'.
 

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Nope. The ring you pictured is indeed 15th Century but the setting is correctly known as a "scalloped cusp" setting. It's properly described as such in the listing from Christie's auction house where it was sold last year.

https://www.christies.com/lotfinder...px?from=salesummary&intObjectID=6240556&lid=1

By contrast, the OP's ring has a 'claw' setting which does not predate the late 1800s. In America those are known as 'prong' settings, having been popularised by Tiffany, and in the UK that term is now also used alongside our original term 'claw'.

Somehow I knew you were going to do this... so......... here are a couple more examples.

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You can call it whatever someone said it was... but it is by definition... "prongs". heh

Anyway... does not matter... the OP's ring is sold online today.

This has been in water for sort period... just by patina you can tell that.
Haha I knew ur buddy would chime in[emoji6]
 

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Somehow I knew you were going to do this... so......... here are a couple more examples.

And I knew you were going to do that. None of the examples you show are claw or prong settings and - if you look at the original ring - you will see that it has no resemblance in construction to what you are showing. Except that you probably won't see it of course.
 

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And I knew you were going to do that. None of the examples you show are claw or prong settings and - if you look at the original ring - you will see that it has no resemblance in construction to what you are showing. Except that you probably won't see it of course.

Sorta like how you couldn't see that the ring pictured shows no resemblance to anything old ... or even "vintage"...

not in any way shape or form... yet you seemed sorta vague on your response.


I am SHOWING examples of pronged rings... back to the Byzantine era.
 

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Hey Red Coat...

I am a Blue Coat.

So its just part of the nature of things. :)
 

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Sorta like how you couldn't see that the ring pictured shows no resemblance to anything old ... or even "vintage"...

not in any way shape or form... yet you seemed sorta vague on your response.


I am SHOWING examples of pronged rings... back to the Byzantine era.
Feel like redcoats is blowing smoke because claw and prong are the same thing by definition per google. Lol. But wait there's more he has been a jeweler since the turn of the century, and next week when u guys get into it over a skid steer bucket he will be a tractor salesman. Lol jk I love watching u 2 keep up the good work.20200120_121723.jpg
 

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