Old Photo ID Needed... Mexican?

[diggummup]

Do these folks look like Mexicans? Also, if you notice they are all holding flowers. Could this be a funeral? I count at least 100 people in this photo, mostly kids. Any thoughts on this photo?

 

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[Mekong Mike]

For sure not mexican. Could be balkans. Maybe a memorial service for trapped coal miners.

 

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[Bramblefind]

Okay we know that...

4- The man that owned it "may" have been of Turkish (or even Armenian) descent.

I can say with a lot of confidence that the Jack Meharian you bought it from is Armenian and is the same person as the boy in the photo I posted above.

 

[DCMatt]

I can say with a lot of confidence that the Jack Meharian you bought it from is Armenian and is the same person as the boy in the photo I posted above.

Agree. I can't post all the bits of info I've looked at to draw my conclusion, but here is the Reader's Digest version:

We know from Bramblefind's news clip that Jack's mother was Mrs. Berch Meharian. I believe her name was Rose (Kakligian) Meharian.

Rose's sister was Lucille (Kakligian) Avdoian. According to Lucille's obit, the Kakligian family escaped the Armenian genocide.

So... It is reasonable to assume that Kakligian family (Jack's grandparents) members may in the photo.

At the very least, I'm convinced the people in the pic are Armenian.

DCMatt

 

[EasyriderTX]

That's a great photo, what's sad is their probably all dead, we're all just passing through.

 

[cw0909]

i went looking at some Armenian boards to see if there was a copy of your img
anywhere,no luck,the links i posted below may be interested in a copy of your
photo,and may be able to tell you what is going on in the img,
was looking into Armenian funerals,found this,not much help
Armenia: the proper way to pay your respects | World news | Guardian Weekly
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found this img they are holding flowers,cant tell if it is for a funeral
Students monastery garden, Armash, 1899-1900
(picture 200, RH Kevorkian, PB Paboudjian, Les Armeniens Dans l'Empire Ottoman
a La Veille Du Genocide. Editions d'Art et d'Histoire ARHIS, Paris, 1992)
http://armhistory.ru/_ph/5/2/514144235.jpg
source calamity 1915
? - ?? ?? -Armenian History-? ?
---------------
i couldnt determine the contact,this is a feedback pg,you need google translate bar/tab
?? ?? -Armenian History-? ? - ?? ??
another site
Armenian National Institute
their imgs,have not looked at all
Photo Collections Depicting the Armenian Genocide

 

[cw0909]

dont know what the faces are for,in my post,but if you click them they go to the site

 

[diggummup]

I can say with a lot of confidence that the Jack Meharian you bought it from is Armenian and is the same person as the boy in the photo I posted above.

Thanks for pointing that out. I've been working 11 and 12 hours days. I just got home, left at 6 am this morning so my head isn't all here. I didn't even realize that pic showed the guy as a kid. Thanks for posting that.

i went looking at some Armenian boards to see if there was a copy of your img
anywhere,no luck,the links i posted below may be interested in a copy of your
photo,and may be able to tell you what is going on in the img,
was looking into Armenian funerals,found this,not much help
Armenia: the proper way to pay your respects | World news | Guardian Weekly
-----------
found this img they are holding flowers,cant tell if it is for a funeral
Students monastery garden, Armash, 1899-1900
(picture 200, RH Kevorkian, PB Paboudjian, Les Armeniens Dans l'Empire Ottoman
a La Veille Du Genocide. Editions d'Art et d'Histoire ARHIS, Paris, 1992)
http://armhistory.ru/_ph/5/2/514144235.jpg
source calamity 1915
? - ?? ?? -Armenian History-? ?
---------------
i couldnt determine the contact,this is a feedback pg,you need google translate bar/tab
?? ?? -Armenian History-? ? - ?? ??
another site
Armenian National Institute
their imgs,have not looked at all
Photo Collections Depicting the Armenian Genocide

Thank you for the links. I've got a lot of research to do. Hopefully I'll find some time this weekend.

 

[cudamark]

Kind of a grim looking place for a wedding. Since nobody is smiling, I would think it much more likely to be a funeral or some other ceremony.

 

[diggummup]

Posted for my benefit. Jacks father...

Berch Meharian on June 29, 2017, of Niagara Falls, NY, age 94, beloved husband of the late Rose Anita (nee) Kakligian; loving father of Jack, Gary and Lori. Born in Detroit, MI, he was the son of the late Levon and Yevdokce Markarian.
He came to Niagara Falls at age four and was raised by his step-father, Misag Meharian, and his mother. He served in the US Coast Guard on the U.S.S. LST 261 and participated in the invasion of Normandy, France, D-Day on June 6, 1944. Employment was at Bell Aerospace for 34 years. After retirement, he continued to help run Meharian Florist & Gallery with his wife and children. His final residence was at the Elderwood Village at Williamsville Assisted Living where he enjoyed many social activities and wellness programs.
Mr. Meharian is survived by his daughter, Lori Meharian-Markarian of Williamsville, John Markarian and family of Granite City, IL, Takouhie Kakligian of Fairview Heights, IL and Melanie Cooper of Williamsville.
A private service was held on July 5th with interment following at Riverdale Cemetery in Lewiston.
If desired, donations may be made to St. Gregory the Illuminator Armenian Apostolic Church, 1014 W. Pontoon Road, Granite City, Illinois 62040.
Arrangements were with the DUBOIS FUNERAL HOME, Wheatfield.
Published on July 5, 2017

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[Red-Coat]

Just tidying up some blasts from the past (including some very ancient ones), largely for the benefit of anyone searching the site for information.

I don’t think there’s any particular occasion for the photograph. It’s just a documentary picture of the pupils and staff of an Armenian school. Here’s the same photograph from the ‘Dick Maloian Collection’, where it’s captioned “Keghi, 1912. The pupils and faculty of an Armenian school”:

https://www.armenianinstitute.org.uk/events/therighteousamongourneighbours

So it was taken before the arrests, deportations and massacres of Armenians by the Ottoman Empire during WWI, generally recognised by 34 countries as the ‘Armenian Genocide’, but still disputed by Turkey, Azerbaijan, and Pakistan as being a genocidal campaign.