old label?

Moe (fl)

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You are finding some interesting things of late. It must be a beach not used very much by people. Chances are you are finding some shipwreck items.
George Washington Vanderbilt II (November 14, 1862 – March 6, 1914) was a member of the prominent United States Vanderbilt family, which had amassed a huge fortune through steamboats, railroads, and various business enterpriseshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_Vanderbilt_II George Washington Vanderbilt II.jpg

It keeps repeating his name. Could it be lead sheathing from an old wooden ship?
 

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Ok, what you have my friend is a great find in my opinion. Mr. Vanderbilt was the mastermind of the great Biltmore estate located here in Asheville NC. I've been to the estate many times and your relic would most likely have great interest to the Family who runs the huge home as a tourist spot today. There are people here who collect anything related to Mr.Vanderbilt's endeavors. I have recently found a large milk bottle hunting near the estate fully intact. Mr. Biltmores vision was to build a self maintained establishement. He succeeded with the exception of going broke when he was alive. Mr. Biltmore had an early death when he died of TB which was common around here. Folks with the disease, fled here believing the fresh air of the mountains had healing effects. which was really not true. Today, the Biltmore thrives accomplishing what George intended to accomplish. "In the day" the estate had its own electricity source which was rare then.Mr Biltmores dream was to "own" everything he could see while looking out of his many windows of the mansion. He succeeded, there as well! cheers ...mike
 

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Now that is History, & its seems to be in his own hand (maybe). Might be a specialist museum material!
 

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I have a hunch that this piece is a part of a metal band around a bottle of wine from the Biltmore Estate Winery--maybe one of their sparkling wines (which bear the signature of Vanderbilt on their labels). You might want to look through their wine list and see if you can find close-up photos of the bottles for a match.


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Buckleboy
 

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BuckleBoy said:
I have a hunch that this piece is a part of a metal band around a bottle of wine from the Biltmore Estate Winery--maybe one of their sparkling wines (which bear the signature of Vanderbilt on their labels). You might want to look through their wine list and see if you can find close-up photos of the bottles for a match.


Best Wishes,



Buckleboy

arhhh, or a case of wine
 

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CRUSADER said:
BuckleBoy said:
I have a hunch that this piece is a part of a metal band around a bottle of wine from the Biltmore Estate Winery--maybe one of their sparkling wines (which bear the signature of Vanderbilt on their labels). You might want to look through their wine list and see if you can find close-up photos of the bottles for a match.


Best Wishes,



Buckleboy

arhhh, or a case of wine

:thumbsup: Or presentation box. :)
 

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Thinking lead through me off. I think now Buckles may be right. I found a Biltmore wine bottle with writing but cannot read it. Maybe someone will search and find a better pic. http://wineshop.biltmore.com/browse.cfm

Since the mid-1980's, Biltmore has produced a line of award-winning wines from its own vineyards. For the past half dozen years, the Biltmore name has also been licensed for home furnishings such as furniture and rugs, and building products from cabinetry and hardwood floors to hardware and paint. The new identity is designed to unify all of these product lines and businesses under a single lifestyle brand
 

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I went on the wagon years ago when my neighborhood store stopped selling Ripple. :'(
 

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I thought the Biltmore Mansion was Cornelius Vanderbilts home...not George Vanderbilt.

Deerhunter24
 

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Thank you all for the interesting replies!

Yes, I thought that it could be a wine bottle label. I think it is thin lead or old aluminum (it is fragile!).

When I found this piece, my first thought was that it was old hand writing, but now I think it is a label of some sort.

HH!
-Moe
 

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Moe (fl) said:
I noticed that the wine bottles are called Biltmore Estate not George W Vanderbilt.

No, but Geo. W. Vanderbilt's signature is all over them.


http://www.biltmore.com/images/int/winelabels/sparkling.gif

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This is the label in the link above. The signatures also wrap around the thin metal that encases the top of the bottles too. I can't find a close up of them, but perhaps someone that is close to the winery would be kind enough to snap a photo of one.


Best Wishes,


Buckles
 

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Moe (fl) said:
Thank you all for the interesting replies!

Yes, I thought that it could be a wine bottle label but why metal? I think it is thin lead or old aluminum (it is fragile!).

I noticed that the wine bottles are called Biltmore Estate not George W Vanderbilt. Could it be an old type of wine or sparkling wine?

When I found this piece, my first thought was that it was old hand writing, but now I think it is a label of some sort.

HH!
-Moe
I guess you dont drink much champagne. ;D It is wrapped in Aluminum foil which, as you know, will set off a metal detector. Our beaches down south are full of foil trash. Look at the writing on the foil wrap. It says George W. Vanderbilt on a slant and it repeats. The saltwater environment will make finds appear much older than they really are. It is thin fragile aluminum foil from a wine bottle. No doubt about it. It couldnt be any older than mid-80's. Solved. :thumbsup:

ADDED: BTW what is the size?

wine george vanderbuilt.jpgwine red vanderbuilt crop.jpg
 

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