Old crank. I think it's a FORD Mod. T ??

[tamrock]

A week or so ago I was looking for old stuff at an old Coal Mine Camp here in Colorado. The place is littered with old iron, busted glass and junk I believe from around the early 20th century. I only took a picture of this old crank and posted it on daily photo's for show and tell, but comments came along that it could be a crank for any old car of the era. Yesterday I went and retrieved it and brought it home.. I found a few old Ford T cranks pictures online and two of the pictures I found looked very similar to this one and both were said to be early Ford Mod T engine cranks. I really don't know, as It could be an old cranks to an early mining winch to an old Dodge? What do you What Izzers's think I have here. ?? I've marked some fairly accurate measurement on the 2nd pic. to look at.

 

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[Keith Jackson]

Since you said that you found it at an old mine, is it possible that they were reusing a Model T engine for a donkey engine?

 

[releventchair]

Tractors had cranks too. Drove pulleys and belts and did grunt work .

 

[tamrock]

I did look at the old Fordson tractors and the engine cranks looked bigger, due what looked like an engine on those with a real long stroke. Those sure didn't look fun at all to be hand crank starting. That thought did come to mind KJ. Just look online at all what folks would make out of a cobbled up Ford Model T. I guess if you blew the engine on those you'd just hitch the horse to it and keep on going.

 

[boogeyman]

Have you thought of posting your pics on some of the Model T collectors websites? A lot of those guys can ID parts in their sleep!

 

[75matador315]

I did look at the old Fordson tractors and the engine cranks looked bigger, due what looked like an engine on those with a real long stroke. Those sure didn't look fun at all to be hand crank starting. That thought did come to mind KJ. Just look online at all what folks would make out of a cobbled up Ford Model T. I guess if you blew the engine on those you'd just hitch the horse to it and keep on going.

my father had an old steel wheel fordson and from what i remember when they were running well they really werent that hard to start. i actually own a 1940's farmall cub that i still start with a hand crank its easier than charging up the old 6volt system and trying to start it with the electric.

 

[tamrock]

my father had an old steel wheel fordson and from what i remember when they were running well they really werent that hard to start. i actually own a 1940's farmall cub that i still start with a hand crank its easier than charging up the old 6volt system and trying to start it with the electric.

I've never had the chance to try and start anything with 4 cylinders by hand. Closest thing I've done to anything like that was pulling a rope on a lawnmower or kick starting a motorcycle. Both really easy to start when they run well.

 

[Tony in SC]

What is in the end? Is it a smooth round hole, splined, square, or keyed? All engine cranks have or are attached to some sort slip/ratchet device that will slip when the engine starts. Cranks were also used on old power units, light plants etc. Hit & miss engine cranks had a large "eye" on the end and slipped over the end of the crankshaft and did not stay on the engine. It could also be from some sort of windlass, like a hand winch?

 

[75matador315]

I've never had the chance to try and start anything with 4 cylinders by hand. Closest thing I've done to anything like that was pulling a rope on a lawnmower or kick starting a motorcycle. Both really easy to start when they run well.

ya i talked with my father this morning about it and he said it started very easily the only thing he said he did to help start it was charge up the magnetos a little bit with a 6 volt charger to get the spark going.

 

[releventchair]

my father had an old steel wheel fordson and from what i remember when they were running well they really werent that hard to start. i actually own a 1940's farmall cub that i still start with a hand crank its easier than charging up the old 6volt system and trying to start it with the electric.

I've a well worn 48 cub ,still need to get a crank. Them 6 volt systems need big battery cables for sure.

 

[tamrock]

ya i talked with my father this morning about it and he said it started very easily the only thing he said he did to help start it was charge up the magnetos a little bit with a 6 volt charger to get the spark going.

In the late 70s I had a 1974 H-D Super Glide. It was kick start only. On cooler mornings it just wouldn't fire up so well and I would put a battery charger to the battery and turn the dial to boost start and it would fire up on three kicks, which was more of me jumping up in the air and trusting leg at the same time I was coming down with all the weight of my body. Once it was warned up I could start it up all day and go bar hop throughout the night with my cousin til closing time.