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[Whatacoin]

Just where has obama compromised?

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As far as I know, not in many places. That's why I said NOBODY. I'm talking about everyone. Not excluding Obama.

 

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[dieselram94]

There is no progress as I said in my last comment. What I am trying to get to is that there's no progress being made because nothing is getting done because all everyone does is argue and debate about it.

Nothing getting done? What do you call obamacare? And. All the scandals coming to light? Seems like quite a lot is getting done. If you mean gun control...well we dont need nything tp get done. Thats why we have the second amendment.

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[dieselram94]

As far as I know, not in many places. That's why I said NOBODY. I'm talking about everyone. Not excluding Obama.

Ok, we can agree on that at least. I see it as the right has done nothing but compromise. Health care, taxes, regulations, spending, national defense and on and on. So maybe it ahould be the left needs to compromise?

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[Whatacoin]

Nothing getting done? What do you call obamacare? And. All the scandals coming to light? Seems like quite a lot is getting done. If you mean gun control...well we dont need nything tp get done. Thats why we have the second amendment.

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Alright then, lets use gun control as an example. I was in Newtown at the time of the shooting and am still against gun control but I do understand that there are many out there that are for it. Well, why don't we meet them in between somewhere and move on to the next thing rather then spend months if not years arguing about it.

 

[Whatacoin]

Ok, we can agree on that at least. I see it as the right has done nothing but compromise. Health care, taxes, regulations, spending, national defense and on and on. So maybe it ahould be the left needs to compromise?

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Alright sure the left does. And yes the right has, however there are many topics still left un dealt with because of disagreements.

 

[dieselram94]

Alright then, lets use gun control as an example. I was in Newtown at the time of the shooting and am still against gun control but I do understand that there are many out there that are for it. Well, why don't we meet them in between somewhere and move on to the next thing rather then spend months if not years arguing about it.

Because we have the second amendment. Compromise on the second and all the others soon fall. And why should we give up a right that so many died for, just to move on?

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[dieselram94]

Alright sure the left does. And yes the right has, however there are many topics still left un dealt with because of disagreements.

That is for the best. With govt no action is good action.

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[Whatacoin]

Because we have the second amendment. Compromise on the second and all the others soon fall. And why should we give up a right that so many died for, just to move on?

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Again I support the second amendment. The issue at the time of it being written was that its intent was to be able to defend against an overruling government. Technology has made this almost obsolute, if the government wanted to take over, they would.

 

[Whatacoin]

That is for the best. With govt no action is good action.

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In most scenarios it would be. But I would consider this situation an exception due to the fact that people for decades are simply used to government taking action digging us in a somewhat hole.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Again I support the second amendment. The issue at the time of it being written was that its intent was to be able to defend against an overruling government. Technology has made this almost obsolute, if the government wanted to take over, they would.

Afganastan fought and won a war against a superior Soviet military force..... A war would be fought as a gorilla war......

 

[Whatacoin]

Also we are not giving up the right, its already limited isn't it? And has been for years. Same as every other right.

 

[Whatacoin]

Afganastan fought and won a war against a superior Soviet military force..... A war would be fought as a gorilla war......

That was 20/30 years ago. Alot has changed since and I actually really like the example you gave though. But then again look at Afghanistan today.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

I would rather die defending my freedoms then to live as a subject of a socialist government.... Since I was willing to take a chance of being killed 10,000 miles from home in SE Asia defending someone elses freedoms, I would have no problem doing the same here for my and my grand kids freedoms...

 

[bevo]

wc. I am not sure of you what so ever.

 

[DeepseekerADS]

Nor am I.... Give just a little, give just a little more, and a little bit more.

And then we have NOTHING.

 

[dieselram94]

In most scenarios it would be. But I would consider this situation an exception due to the fact that people for decades are simply used to government taking action digging us in a somewhat hole.

So your saying that simply because people are used to an overreaching govt that its ok to let our feedoms erode Really that is how you feel??

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[Whatacoin]

So your saying that simply because people are used to an overreaching govt that its ok to let our feedoms erode Really that is how you feel??

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No, we are used to government that simply involves itself in things like economics. This involvement only began in the 1910's. Now if we could go back to where the government could stay out then great. But not just our people but also how the systems work have adapted to this and it would be devastating if we just said that there would be no more government involvement.

 

[dieselram94]

No, we are used to government that simply involves itself in things like economics. This involvement only began in the 1910's. Now if we could go back to where the government could stay out then great. But not just our people but also how the systems work have adapted to this and it would be devastating if we just said that there would be no more government involvement.

You misunderstand me. The govt will always be involved. We need to limit that. As ot is right now they use the idea of: never let a crisis go to waste. Every time there is a shooting by a loony tune the ise it as a excuse to eliminate the second

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[thrillathahunt]

It is very clear that this administration cannot be trusted. But what is even more frustrating is how Obama constantly gets a bye and is not accountable for anything!

 

[Whatacoin]

You misunderstand me. The govt will always be involved. We need to limit that. As ot is right now they use the idea of: never let a crisis go to waste. Every time there is a shooting by a loony tune the ise it as a excuse to eliminate the second

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And they will continue to use every single one of these incidents to push their cause through. What's a solution for this? I'm not seeing one as it will always be human nature to blame something or someone for something.