obama rejects Gettysburg visit for 150th anniversary

Treasure Hunter:

First of all, we won the American Revolution. Great Britain refused to recognize the citizens of the American colonies had the rights of other English subjects.

There was no United States Constitution in 1776.

Do you not agree that the Constitution does not provide a mechanism for states to leave the Union? Do you not agree that if they thought such a thing a good idea - even possible - the Founders and Framers would have included that in the original document?

Again - the Constitution clearly states how a state may join the Union. There's nothing there about leaving. It's a marriage with no divorce.

The states never left the Union. They tried to go - and didn't make it out the door. The War settled the issue. The Union - and the Constitution - won.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo

OB my family fought for CSA believe what you want my great great grandfather fought for his country, The CSA.....

I also believe in Bill of Rights and when our government exceeds their authority it is the right of the people to seek other means.

Amendment 10 is one our government loves to abuse and lucifercare is prime example of that.....

Amendment X

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 10

Amendment 10

Powers of the States and People

"The powers not delegated to the United States by*the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."




We will NOT go quitely into the night!
 

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whew...rather revealing post...

Yes it reveals my forefathers fought for CSA and I believe in Bill of Rights and Constitution. .

We will NOT go quitely into the night!
 

packerbacker:

Your rant and speculate. The President can only be one place at a time. To arbitrarily state his reasons for not being anywhere else remains poor guesses.

A while ago there was a chain Internets email circulating about Presidents visiting the D-Day Memorial, and how Mr. Obama was the first President in 67 or 69 years to not do that. It was fiction from start to finish.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo
 

Obama's speech would have been short, to the point and directed at the people of America. "Veni, Vidi, Vici"-I came, I saw, I conquered...
 

12th Pennsylvania

interesting how then, you guys forgot what the bill of rights and the constitution stood for...
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Ok.. Is the picture emerging that space and time are not following a linear progression in your mind? Is your belief that everything that has happened never stops happening, good or bad,, or is it only bad? This would actually help to explain modern liberalism, we could win awards if you can show me how your thinking works.
 

12th Pennsylvania

interesting how then, you guys forgot what the bill of rights and the constitution stood for...
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We haven't forgotten a thing about the Bill of Rights or Constitution, it is Liberals that are constantly attacking the BOR and Constitution.

I do remember you forgot America is a Constitutional Republic.....

We will NOT go quitely into the night!
 

To my knowledge barry has never made mention of the men who
gave there all on June 6 1944.

What I do know is that he punished 90 year old men last month
in DC . For that I have no respect for him,not that I had much before that.






packerbacker:

Your rant and speculate. The President can only be one place at a time. To arbitrarily state his reasons for not being anywhere else remains poor guesses.

A while ago there was a chain Internets email circulating about Presidents visiting the D-Day Memorial, and how Mr. Obama was the first President in 67 or 69 years to not do that. It was fiction from start to finish.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo
 

mg....conservatives don't revolt...
you guys sat on tory behinds and let the liberals create a nation...and have been whining about it ever since...including the insane attempt to divide the union.
 

njal:

With all due respect, I believe your knowledge is short.

Mr. Obama did not punish WW II vets. He didn't shut down the Federal government - it was a fringe part of the Republican party that thought it was such a great idea. They talked about it for years, they made it happen, then they grandstanded and ran like crazy from the results.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo
 

mg....conservatives don't revolt...
you guys sat on tory behinds and let the liberals create a nation...and have been whining about it ever since...including the insane attempt to divide the union.

Liberal doesn't mean the same thing in 2013 as it did in 1774. That is a huge generalization on your part.
 

Treasure Hunter:

My forefathers fought for the Union - Admiral Foote, Andrew Anderson killed at the Battle of Corinth fighting with the Illinois Volunteer Infantry, et. al. Happily, that War is over now.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo
 

njal:

With all due respect, I believe your knowledge is short.

Mr. Obama did not punish WW II vets. He didn't shut down the Federal government - it was a fringe part of the Republican party that thought it was such a great idea. They talked about it for years, they made it happen, then they grandstanded and ran like crazy from the results.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo

That is a prevarication. You don't even recall recent history! lol
 

Gettysburg
Upon the opening of the Gettysburg campaign in June, the regiment marched under command of Colonel Hardin, and joining the main body of the army at Frederick, Maryland, reached the battle-field at ten A. M. on the 2d of July. The column halted in rear of Cemetery Heights, until the battle opened heavily upon the left, when it was hurriedly moved to the vicinity of Little Round Top, passing on the way many of the wounded from Sickles' Corps as they were carried back to hospitals. After considerable manoeuvring it finally moved by the left flank to the right of the hill, and formed on the right of Hazlett's Battery. Here a fine view of the field was presented, and the disheartening spectacle of thousands of our own troops retreating before an exultant enemy.
Soon an order was given for the head of the column to deploy to the left, to the support of troops on the left of the battery. The Twelfth, being in front, moved off in obedience to this order, scrambling as they went over rocks, and the dead bodies of their comrades of the First Division, who had fallen in holding this rugged eminence against the desperate assaults of the enemy. The approach of fresh troops gave new assurance to our men, and the main battle on the left slackened as they came rapidly into position, though the fire of the rebel sharpshooters was still very deadly.

The men quckly gained temporary cover by throwing up slight breastworks of stone, and the heavy body of the enemy which had been contending in the low space between the two hills, and which was still in plain view, soon sought shelter in the dense wood at the foot of Round Top. Just after dark the Third Brigade was ordered to move upon Round Top, and take position on its summit.

Forming in line of battle nearly perpendicular to that just abandoned, with the Twentieth Maine, Colonel Chamberlain, in advance, and the Twelfth on the right, the column advanced. Owing to the rugged nature of the ascent, and the darknesss which prevailed, some confusion ensued, and portions of it became separated from the main body; but re-forming and moving directly by the left flank, the command reached its position, encountering but a few shots from the enemy. A stone wall was immediately commenced which before morning was completed, connecting the summit of Round Top with that of Little Round Top. The enemy could be distinctly heard during the night building a wall parallel to it, near the foot of the mountain.

On the morning of the 3d a heavy skirmish line was extended to the left, down the steep side of the mountain, conecting with the Sixth Corps on the plain. The regiment had no more heavy fighting in its immediate front; but the trees sheltered many sharpshooters from whose unerring aim one man from the Twelfth was killed, and several wounded. Occupying the summit of the mountain, a good view was presented of the gallant but unfortunate charge of the cavalry under Kilpatrick on the left, and the grand assault of the enemy on the left centre.

On the morning of the 4th the enemy's troops were seen filing out from the foot of Round Top and moving to his rear. A skirmish line was immediately advanced, and it was soon ascertained that he had evacuated his works. But with his usual shrewdness he had placed the muskets of his dead and wounded against his parapet, so that the bayonets were visible. This ruse was soon detected and the muskets brought in. On the morning of the 5th the pursuit commenced and was cautiously conducted until the enemy was overtaken near Williamsport, where some skirmishing ensued; but before the preparations were completed for a general attack he had escaped across the river.

In the campaign which ensued, the Twelfth, under command of Colonel Gustin, Colonel Hardin being in command of the brigade, was engaged at Bristoe Station on the 14th of October, preventing the enemy from planting his artillery on the heights which it held, and the cutting off of the Second Corps from its connection with the army, at Rappahannock Station on the 19th of November, and at Mine Run November 26th.

At the close of the campaign, the regiment went into winter quarters along the Orange and Alexandria Railroad, with headquarters at Catlett's Station. The Fifth and Twelfth regiments were placed under command of Colonel Hardin, with orders to guard the road from Catlett's to Broad Run. The guerrillas were very troublesome, and the greatest vigilance was required to guard against their sneaking and cowardly attacks. It was unsafe for any one to go out of sight of camp, and block houses were constructed for the protection of the picket posts.

On the 13th of December, a party of officers consisting of Colonel Hardin, and Lieutenant Colonels Gustin and Dare, accompanied by an orderly, was attacked by a party of five mounted guerrillas dressed in the uniform of Union cavalry, who approached within a few feet of the unsuspecting party, and when accosted suddenly raised their pistols, which they had kept concealed, and poured in a rapid fire. Colonel Hardin was struck in the left arm, which was so badly shattered as to require amputation; his horse was killed, pierced by several bullets; and Colonel Gustin was severely wounded in the right hand. The rebel party then turned off into the woods and galloped away. The picket guard instantly turned out, but being infantry was of little avail.
 

you can believe what you want ,I know what I saw.

I saw 90 year old men being punished by barry and company.

You sound just like barry ,you have an answer for everything.



njal:

With all due respect, I believe your knowledge is short.

Mr. Obama did not punish WW II vets. He didn't shut down the Federal government - it was a fringe part of the Republican party that thought it was such a great idea. They talked about it for years, they made it happen, then they grandstanded and ran like crazy from the results.

Good luck to all,

~The Old Bookaroo
 

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