Obama enters Martin debate with personal remarks, questions stand-your-ground

XLTer

Hero Member
Joined
Sep 26, 2012
Messages
634
Reaction score
303
Golden Thread
0
Location
Western Pa.
Detector(s) used
Whites XLT
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Obama enters Martin debate with personal remarks, questions 'stand-your-ground'

President Obama publicly and personally addressed the Trayvon Martin case for the first time since George Zimmerman was acquitted nearly a week ago, relating his own experiences to the "pain" the black community is feeling and going on to question so-called "stand-your-ground" laws.

The president delivered extensive remarks during a surprise appearance in the White House briefing room. He suggested race may have played a strong role in the case, saying that if a "white male teen" were involved, "both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different."

He went far beyond his remarks a year ago in which he stirred controversy by saying if he had a son, he'd look like Martin.

"Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago," Obama said.

The president used the highly personal comments to, in his words, put the angst in the black community in "context." And he also appeared to give his support to Attorney General Eric Holder's call earlier in the week for a review of "stand-your-ground" laws.

The laws allow people to use lethal force if they feel threatened -- even if they might have the option of retreating.

"If we're sending a message as a society ... that someone who is armed potentially has the right to use those firearms even if there's a way for them to exit from a situation, is that really going to be contributing to the kind of peace and security and order that we'd like to see?" Obama said.

The president acknowledged that the law was not part of the Zimmerman defense, but suggested the laws might still "encourage" violence. In a provocative statement, the president also questioned whether Martin, if he had a gun, could have been "justified in shooting Mr. Zimmerman because he felt threatened."

The NRA has defended the stand-your-ground laws, saying they are vital to self-defense.

George Zimmerman's brother Robert Zimmerman responded to Obama's comments in an interview with Fox News, saying a lot of people wanted to hear from the president and "I'm glad he spoke out today."

He said he agrees that there should be "teachable moments." At the same time, he voiced concern that leaders may be responding to "pressure" as the Justice Department probes his brother to see if federal civil rights charges should be brought.

Obama appeared to manage expectations on that front during his remarks on Friday. He said he understands that protests may have to "work (their) way through," but said these cases are traditionally handled by state and local authorities.

He said Holder is reviewing, but that people should have "clear expectations."

Obama reiterated that the jury -- at the state level -- has spoken.

He also offered personal details that harkened back to the speech he gave on race as a candidate in 2008. Obama said: "It's important to recognize that the African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences, and a history that doesn't go away."

Obama said there are "very few" black men who haven't been followed while shopping at a department store -- "that includes me."

"I don't want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African American community interprets what happened one night in Florida," Obama said.

The comments from the president -- particularly comments this extensive -- were not expected. It's unclear whether they will serve to fuel the debate or potentially ease tensions.

The Justice Department, it seems, is not dropping the issue any time soon.

Shortly before Obama spoke, members of the Congressional Black Caucus huddled in the Capitol with Justice Department officials, urging them to produce a study on the Martin case and make recommendations to avoid similar situations.

Fox News has learned that one of the CBC members, Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla., has Travyon Martin's brother -- Jahvaris Fulton -- interning in her Miami office. He was a witness at the trial.


Read more: Obama enters Martin debate with personal remarks, questions 'stand-your-ground' | Fox News
 

He just keeps stirring the pot. The guy was found innocent.....get over it. If he could have been Martin 35 years ago, that says a lot about who our president is today.
 

Florida's Governor has publically stated he supports the "Stand your ground" law and has no plans to repeal it or support repealing it....

Jesse Jackson is calling for a boycott of Florida... (Jesse PLEASE boycott Florida) There is no way there is enough support in the state to even come close to repealing it by vote..... There are close to 1.5 million conceal carry license holders in the state and large groups of women support i as well as the right to defend theirselves......
 

Last edited:
Florida's Governor has publicaly stated he supports the "Stand your ground" law and has no plans to repeal it or support repealing it....

Jesse Jackson is calling for a boycott of Florida... (Jesse PLEASE boycott Florida) There is no way there is enough support in the state to even come close to repealing it by vote..... There are close to 1.5 million conceal carry license holders in the state and large groups of women support i as well as the right to defend theirselves......



Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
 

He just keeps stirring the pot. The guy was found innocent.....get over it. If he could have been Martin 35 years ago, that says a lot about who our president is today.
Obama is just a complete criminal who hasn't been caught yet...
2Q==
 

I must say though, Most of the time I don't give two cares about what Obama says. On this though, I thought we were done with this when Zimmerman was found innocent a few days ago. Why are we bringing it up again!?! It's time to move on, simple as that.
 

I must say though, Most of the time I don't give two cares about what Obama says. On this though, I thought we were done with this when Zimmerman was found innocent a few days ago. Why are we bringing it up again!?! It's time to move on, simple as that.

When I say we by the way I mean Obama.
 

If Jackson and Sharpton and all the rest their racist cohorts promise to stay out of Florida I will move there!
 

Obama is just a complete criminal who hasn't been caught yet...

Its hard to prosecute a gutless puppet that has the banksters pulling the strings.
 

Its hard to prosecute a gutless puppet that has the banksters pulling the strings.
Maybe, however I think he might take to prison life quite well if he were to be prosecuted. Those big ears he has just might have a purpose after all! :laughing7:

On a serious note though I think Obama is just George Sorrows puppet...
 

I must say though, Most of the time I don't give two cares about what Obama says. On this though, I thought we were done with this when Zimmerman was found innocent a few days ago. Why are we bringing it up again!?! It's time to move on, simple as that.
It's being brought up again for a multitude of reasons. A few of them are to further widen the racial divide in this country, gun control, and to buy votes.
 

Can I change my vote to Romney?

Romney is just another bankster puppet.Theyre one and the same austin,as George Carlin said "you dont have a choice"They make it so you believe that you do.If you want to vote,vote for the man that constantly refers to the constitution.All others are garbage waiting to be taken out with the trash.
 

Red, at least Romny is an American. More than we can say for this race baiter we have in the white house right now...

Sent from my SCH-R930 using Tapatalk 2
 

He is just trying to instigate a race riot/war in my opinion.. This subject has the potential to cause many problems and he just keeps poking at it.. The verdict is in. He needs to keep his personal opinions to himself.. Next he will be at the podium in a hoodie going what I just felt like wearing a hooded sweatshirt today.. Obama is a joke.. It truly sucks the we have to deal with such a moronic novelty president..
 

Obama went on to say that "when I (he) walked across roads he hears car door locks clicking locked, and when he got on elevators white women clutch their pursues and HOLD their breathe until they can get off, or at least until I (he) became senator." OK "IF" this happened???? WHY did it stop when he became a senator????????He was still black wasn't he??????? OH by the way acording to the Federal Government on determining race you are to go by the MOTHERS race!!!! So if Obama's mommy was white, ain't supposed to be claiming white?????????? Why then does he claim black status?????????? He is the most racist man that I know of, including that J Jackson and A Sharpton!!!!!!!!!!
 

The great unifier= the great divider...
 

In my book getting rid of Stand your Ground (Depends how you interrupt that) Take Billy C. (I did not have sexual relations with that woman) Or how about 45 years ago Good old Teddy I can't remember,( I thought see could swim) This could go on and on, Lib's use this as a platform for anything they get caught at.

The above is about as stupid as the crap these guy's are trying to do. Maybe if they all wore Bow ties instead of Hoodies this would all go away.
 

Hoodie.webp

I just couldn't resist :)
 

Top Member Reactions

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top