✅ SOLVED Not a "whats-it" but a "whos-it"

[Blacksheep]

Not a "whats-it" but a "who's-it"

Posting here in hopes of finding info on this item. The 3 cent Moina Michael first-day issue is not difficult to find but more the significance
of the sig/autograph that's included.

It does appear to be a gift to a friend but "why", it seems odd to me that a gift to a friend would be autographed?

I tried several different searches but nothing that would explain any significance. The name in question is " Lillian Hogarth Everett", I did find that she may indeed, still be alive and possible recent marriage of a grand daughter, other than that..nothing.

Appreciate any thoughts/assistance.

EDIT: This is framed/matted using uv blocking glass and acid free matting/paper, not cheap to do)

 

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[Blacksheep]

Re: Not a "whats-it" but a "who's-it"

There must be a connection, besides the fact that in 1948 they once touched each other in mint sheets.

None of the others are in frames. At least I havent found any yet. They are owned by sellers from Covington, Indiana to Manassas, Virginia, from San Jose, California up to Yakima, Washington and yours in Wisconsin. What is the connection?

Solve the connection may solve the mystery gift.

Hate to add to the confusion but.... http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=6192533 , I wanted to "test the waters" with a cheap auction at Goodwill online, this came from Grand Rapids Mich.

Edit: I'll need to find somebody with an account on Ebay, closed mine a few months back due to fee's etc.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Not a "whats-it" but a "who's-it"

Im posting your other clues here. Im a little confused about first day issues. I thought it was the day they were postmarked but apparently it can also the first day of issue, unpostmarked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_day_of_issue



I believe first day issues are all from a particular post office that is connected to the stamp. In this case it appears these collectible plate blocks were all sold at the Athens Georgia PO on Nov. 9, at about 9 AM, 1948. Maybe that will explain the matching numbers as they may all simply be first day issues, sold within the same hour, on the same day, at the same PO but the eBay sellers are unaware of this.


Lillian Hogarth (maiden name Everett) must have traveled to Athens on that day to purchase this first day issue and here is the story. http://georgiainfo.galileo.usg.edu/mmichael.htm The stamp's release came on the 30th anniversary of the day Moina Michael conceived of the idea of selling poppies to help care for disabled soldiers and their families.


For whatever reason she framed it, added the xeroxed story to the back, signed it and presented it as a gift to Mabel and Ray on March 21, 1991, more than 43 years later.

 

[Blacksheep]

Re: Not a "whats-it" but a "who's-it"

" For whatever reason she framed it, added the xeroxed story to the back, signed it and presented it as a gift to Mabel and Ray on March 21, 1991, more than 43 years later."

I took this to a custom frame shop in town and asked how much it would have cost to have duplicated today, between $60-$90. My best guess that back in the early 90's it would have cost at least half of today's price so my question remains, "why"?

The stamps are not rare or particularly valuable nor is the "autograph" so why spend the money, might try to dig up a phone number or email address for one of the recently married grand-kids.

Could it be a "local" custom to sign gifts such as this or has anybody ever heard of something similar?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Not a "whats-it" but a "who's-it"

First day issues are worth more money than a random plate block but what I dont understand is, without a postmark from the Athens post office, what proves these and the eBay blocks to be first day issues?

 

[Blacksheep]

Re: Not a "whats-it" but a "who's-it"

First day issues are worth more money than a random plate block but what I dont understand is, without a postmark from the Athens post office, what proves these and the eBay blocks to be first day issues?

No clue, I'm not much into stamp collecting but a friend is and when I showed him this he claimed it was "over-kill" BUT offered me what I paid for it (with shipping). So, it does seem the mystery is growing somewhat.

We have a plate (by itself) worth a few bucks.

We have an unknown autograph. (I love mysterious women )

Both are mounted in a display worth many times that of the stamps.

Related stamps/plates (serial/sequence number) popping up on Ebay. (This one fact is weird since the one I have was done in 1991)

It generated high interest in a known stamp collector. (being a collector(of everything) myself, I do my damnedest to get the "best" price, even from friends and rarely offer/pay what they ask...unless I know something they don't )

I do hope we can unravel this one. BCH, hows the search on Oscar going? Hope to do more digging on that one this weekend.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Not a "whats-it" but a "who's-it"

Moina Michael died in Athens Ga. on May 10, 1944. Four years later, the Post Office issued a commemorative stamp in her memory. On Nov. 9, 1948, the U.S. Post Office held first-day-of-issue ceremonies in Athens, Ga. for a 3-cent commemorative stamp honoring Moina Michael. The stamp's release came on the 30th anniversary of the day she conceived of the idea of selling poppies to help care for disabled soldiers and their families.

I believe yours and the eBay plate blocks are all from this first day issue ceremony at the Athens post office at 9 AM on Nov. 9, 1948. Value of a 3 cent plate block is about $1-$2 tops. First day issue verification would increase the value. Unless you can find a connection, the signature and framing 43 years later in 1991 appears to be overkill.

We need a stamp collector to explain to me about unpostmarked first day issue plate blocks. How do we know these are first day issues? Why are the eBay sellers not advertising first day issues? Do we have a stamp collector in the group? Do we have a stamp collecting forum?

 

[Blacksheep]

Re: Not a "whats-it" but a "who's-it"

Never did receive a response to my email and later phone call.
Looks like this mystery may never be solved but it does look like she lived
a great life, for that I am thankful.

MERRY CHRISTMAS Lillian and Bill.

"Lillian Hogarth Everett, age 96, passed away Wednesday, October 27, 2010 in [removed], AL. The funeral will be Saturday, October 30, 2010 at [removed] First United Methodist Church at 2 p.m. with Rev. [removed] officiating. Visitation will be one hour prior in the Chapel. Lillian was born on Christmas Day, 1913 in Brunson, SC. She graduated from Winthrop College in Rock Hill, SC, received her Masters degree in Art from Columbia University, NY in 1936, and went on to be the head of the Art Department of Georgia Teachers College in Statesboro, GA. She met William H. Everett while there and they married on Christmas Day, 1940, and lived happily together for 62 years."

 

[lennon631]

Re: Not a "whats-it" but a "who's-it"

Hmmmmm, well is Bill still alive maybe?

 

[Blacksheep]

Re: Not a "whats-it" but a "who's-it"

Hmmmmm, well is Bill still alive maybe?

Her husband (Bill) passed away a number of years ago. I do have info on surviving children but have not called
due to the Christmas birthday/wedding and dod, don't wish to upset the family.

 

[Got_4by4]

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With all due respect.

I have done independent research and was able to verify Blacksheeps info.
And because of resources that I have used to personally recover over
$120,000 to relatives of the dearly departed, I was able to find and speak
to one of Lillians daughters-in-law.

I am awaiting response from Blacksheep to the PM that I sent earlier today
before I proceed further.

Thank You Everyone

 

[Blacksheep]

Re: Not a "whats-it" but a "who's-it"

With all due respect.

I have done independent research and was able to verify Blacksheeps info.
And because of resources that I have used to personally recover over
$120,000 to relatives of the dearly departed, I was able to find and speak
to one of Lillians daughters-in-law.

I am awaiting response from Blacksheep to the PM that I sent earlier today
before I proceed further.

Thank You Everyone

I can respond here, where I appreciate your intent, you did get somewhat ahead of yourself by contacting the family
and making the offer that you did before discussing the issue with me. I have had the names/numbers of extended family
for some time now but felt it was not the right time to make contact or even if contact was warranted (that is the reason
names etc were removed from the obit above).

Again, I do appreciate your interest and intent and I do hope that in the future you will communicate those intentions prior
to these types of contacts in the hope that uncomfortable situations can be avoided.

 

[Blacksheep]

Just ran across this stamp set while rummaging around in the attic. It piqued my interest again so back to more research.

 

[BuckleBoy]

What happened with the contacting of the family? Update?

 

[Blacksheep]

Numbers changed, been trying to dig up new contacts. I also sent a few pictures to a auction site I belong to, hopefully they can help make sense of this.

 

[unclemac]

Lillian Hogarth Everett Obituary: View Lillian Everett's Obituary by Tuscaloosa News

 

[hotrod]

cool

 

[Blacksheep]

Been an awful long time since I posted about this but I finally have an answer. I spoke with her grand daughter, Lillian was the person who designed this stamp.