NEW HENNING NICKEL DATE DISCOVERY!

[Bad Wolf]

OK, so here’s the deal; I am as certain as I can be that I have found a 1945 Henning nickel, i.e., a counterfeit Jefferson nickel made by Francis Leroy Henning.

As many of you may know, the only dates attributed to Henning as “genuine counterfeits” are from the years 1939, 1944, 1946, 1947 and 1953, of which the 1944 has been the easiest to find and validate because of the omission of the mint mark above the dome on the reverse. Well, this one is a 1945 with no mint mark above the dome, which also has the same worn look as all of Henning‘s other nickels. And though there are no other markers I can find, no “EN” mark or looped R in PLURIBUS or reverse die break, it does have a small dot above the dome at about 1 o’clock (dots being indicative of counterfeit coins) and weighs in at just 4.83 grams. I’ve been a fan of Henning nickels ever since I bought my first 1944 several years ago for just 40 bucks, which seemed like a lot at the time. Since then, I’ve been learning everything I can about Henning and his exploits, reading articles, watching videos and following chat groups, and I’ve been passively looking for them in all the usual places for several years. Ironically, I decided to increase my hunting efforts just last week, and so I

was quite pleased to say the least when I discovered this 1945!

in any case, I‘m hoping that those of you who are Henning experts will take a look at these photos and give me your opinions, and hopefully, your validations! Looking forward to your replies!

 

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[galenrog]

Sorry I’m late to the party, boys and girls.

The reverse of the nickel shown shows the obvious signs of a mint mark removal. There is very clearly the remains of a “P” above Monticello, the same size and font as that used by the Mint. All that is visible is a seriously buffed top 1/3 of the mint mark, but is is there.

A very easy, non-destructive way to show this is a 35% silver nickel would be to have it checked by an XRF with a full library loaded. A precious metal library, that many pawn shops and coin shops have loaded to their XRF devices would not detect the 9% manganese.

Time for more coffee.

 

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[Coinstar magnet]

OK, so here’s the deal; I am as certain as I can be that I have found a 1945 Henning nickel, i.e., a counterfeit Jefferson nickel made by Francis Leroy Henning.

As many of you may know, the only dates attributed to Henning as “genuine counterfeits” are from the years 1939, 1944, 1946, 1947 and 1953, of which the 1944 has been the easiest to find and validate because of the omission of the mint mark above the dome on the reverse. Well, this one is a 1945 with no mint mark above the dome, which also has the same worn look as all of Henning‘s other nickels. And though there are no other markers I can find, no “EN” mark or looped R in PLURIBUS or reverse die break, it does have a small dot above the dome at about 1 o’clock (dots being indicative of counterfeit coins) and weighs in at just 4.83 grams. I’ve been a fan of Henning nickels ever since I bought my first 1944 several years ago for just 40 bucks, which seemed like a lot at the time. Since then, I’ve been learning everything I can about Henning and his exploits, reading articles, watching videos and following chat groups, and I’ve been passively looking for them in all the usual places for several years. Ironically, I decided to increase my hunting efforts just last week, and so I View attachment 2096993View attachment 2096991View attachment 2096992View attachment 2096993View attachment 2096994was quite pleased to say the least when I discovered this 1945!
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in any case, I‘m hoping that those of you who are Henning experts will take a look at these photos and give me your opinions, and hopefully, your validations! Looking forward to your replies!

Love your post....I wonder if I came across a Henning counterfeit.... it's a 1947...has a break in the R....I recall it weighed under 5 grams...4.7 4.8ish...

 

[Coinstar magnet]

Here's a couple pics... probably wishful thinking

 

[Ghost of Forrest]

As a coin dealer, id say this actually looks legit, if you are anywhere near New Orleans, I have an XRF gun.

 

[ToddsPoint]

As a coin dealer, id say this actually looks legit, if you are anywhere near New Orleans, I have an XRF gun.

Ghost, you’re the first member I’ve heard of that has an XRF gun. I think there would be a lot of interest if you started a thread about your gun and showed some pics of it in use. Owning an XRF is out of reach for the majority of us. Regards!

 

[galenrog]

Love your post....I wonder if I came across a Henning counterfeit.... it's a 1947...has a break in the R....I recall it weighed under 5 grams...4.7 4.8ish...

The coin you picture took a hit, hence damage to the R and U in PLURIBUS.

Time for more coffee.

 

[Ghost of Forrest]

Ghost, you’re the first member I’ve heard of that has an XRF gun. I think there would be a lot of interest if you started a thread about your gun and showed some pics of it in use. Owning an XRF is out of reach for the majority of us. Regards!

It does have it's limitations as it's only able to reach through the first few microns of the surface. A heavy gold plate can appear as legit. The sigma tester still has it's place, as well as acid and the ring of a coin. Tungsten cores have become more common. But for this, the lack of any manganese will be a huge clue. And yes, at 25k, these XRF guns are expensive.

 

[Digger RJ]

OK, so here’s the deal; I am as certain as I can be that I have found a 1945 Henning nickel, i.e., a counterfeit Jefferson nickel made by Francis Leroy Henning.

As many of you may know, the only dates attributed to Henning as “genuine counterfeits” are from the years 1939, 1944, 1946, 1947 and 1953, of which the 1944 has been the easiest to find and validate because of the omission of the mint mark above the dome on the reverse. Well, this one is a 1945 with no mint mark above the dome, which also has the same worn look as all of Henning‘s other nickels. And though there are no other markers I can find, no “EN” mark or looped R in PLURIBUS or reverse die break, it does have a small dot above the dome at about 1 o’clock (dots being indicative of counterfeit coins) and weighs in at just 4.83 grams. I’ve been a fan of Henning nickels ever since I bought my first 1944 several years ago for just 40 bucks, which seemed like a lot at the time. Since then, I’ve been learning everything I can about Henning and his exploits, reading articles, watching videos and following chat groups, and I’ve been passively looking for them in all the usual places for several years. Ironically, I decided to increase my hunting efforts just last week, and so I View attachment 2096993View attachment 2096991View attachment 2096992View attachment 2096993View attachment 2096994was quite pleased to say the least when I discovered this 1945!
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in any case, I‘m hoping that those of you who are Henning experts will take a look at these photos and give me your opinions, and hopefully, your validations! Looking forward to your replies!

Very Cool!!! Congrats!!!

 

[Coinstar magnet]

The coin you picture took a hit, hence damage to the R and U in PLURIBUS.

Time for more coffee.

I was wondering if that was the case....I noticed that not all nickels weigh 5 grams...

 

[Coinstar magnet]

The coin you picture took a hit, hence damage to the R and U in PLURIBUS.

Time for more coffee.

I'll keep looking....It would be nice to find a war nickel without its mint.

 

[ARC]

You may want to read this.

QUERY: 1945 NICKEL WITHOUT MINTMARK INFO SOUGHT

www.coinbooks.org

 

[TORRERO]

OK, so here’s the deal; I am as certain as I can be that I have found a 1945 Henning nickel, i.e., a counterfeit Jefferson nickel made by Francis Leroy Henning.

As many of you may know, the only dates attributed to Henning as “genuine counterfeits” are from the years 1939, 1944, 1946, 1947 and 1953, of which the 1944 has been the easiest to find and validate because of the omission of the mint mark above the dome on the reverse. Well, this one is a 1945 with no mint mark above the dome, which also has the same worn look as all of Henning‘s other nickels. And though there are no other markers I can find, no “EN” mark or looped R in PLURIBUS or reverse die break, it does have a small dot above the dome at about 1 o’clock (dots being indicative of counterfeit coins) and weighs in at just 4.83 grams. I’ve been a fan of Henning nickels ever since I bought my first 1944 several years ago for just 40 bucks, which seemed like a lot at the time. Since then, I’ve been learning everything I can about Henning and his exploits, reading articles, watching videos and following chat groups, and I’ve been passively looking for them in all the usual places for several years. Ironically, I decided to increase my hunting efforts just last week, and so I View attachment 2096993View attachment 2096991View attachment 2096992View attachment 2096993View attachment 2096994was quite pleased to say the least when I discovered this 1945!
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in any case, I‘m hoping that those of you who are Henning experts will take a look at these photos and give me your opinions, and hopefully, your validations! Looking forward to your replies!

All this is very interesting but a big question for me is WHY counterfeit 5 cents ? even at 100 its only $5
Seems like a waste of time.. unless of course the goal is to get it past someone unexpectedly.. When I was in Peru we found a lot of money on the beach, but because it was cruddy nobody wanted to take them because they believed they were counterfeit and I couldn't explain why it wasn't worth it to make 25 cent coins fake... ha ha ha jokes on me because apparently they did 🤣🤣

 

[Tested]

Welcome to the club while my 1945 nickel is obviously very worn there is clearly no mint mark or remnants even uder usb microscope. I assume it is however in the correct weight range for an authentic War Time nickel with such wear. Or maybe not I'm not sure what .7g of wear would look like.

 

[unclemac]

there are other forums on the net to take this too as well.

 

[Tested]

there are other forums on the net to take this too as well.

I'm sure there are this is just the first discussion I saw when I googled it besides the link posted in this post.