Never thought Id find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

[Bev]

Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

Walking through the dense woods and detecting (found an 1897 Indian Head penny) I came across this cluster of rocks. The tallest about 4 feet tall.
It seems to look like an eagle's head facing upwards and there is an eye carved about 2/3 of the way down.
The rock next to it has a carved cross.
I have pics of the pile from all angles.
What do you guys think?

 

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[watercolor]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

With a cross like that, all I can think about is Spanish silver

 

[Springfield]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

There have been a number of carvings and structures found in New England that have been attributed to the Sinclair expedition (Knights Templar) to Nova Scotia, Vinland and other New England sites in the late 1300's. The Templar cross (4 equal arms) you've found, if it's carved and not natural rock fractures, may fall into that catagory. Good find. The idea that it's a 'Spanish silver' sign is preposterous.

 

[Bev]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

Soooo, is it under the rocks? What do I do now?

 

[Springfield]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

Soooo, is it under the rocks? What do I do now?

I doubt is there is anything under the rocks. It appears that the rocks may be a monument or a land claim marker or some such. It could date back many hundreds of years, or only back to Colonial days, or possibly the cross was a land surveyor's control point from modern times. Who knows? You might check land plats in the county courthouse and try to match up the rocks' location with points on land surveys - this can be difficult to accomplish. So, these rocks and the cross may be quite easy to explain, but they look interesting nonetheless. You might contact local or regional historians, archaeologists, etc. for an opinion. Be advised that these types of academics are often dogmatic in their beliefs and tend to ignore things that don't fit 'accepted' history. This will be a challenge for you and may lead to new knowledge. I wouldn't set my sights on 'treasure' at this time - just try to have fun with it and see where it leads you.

 

[nsdq]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

eminds me of the viking markers found in mich if i rember correctly

 

[desertmoons]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

Do not move them and Google neara. There are a lot of monuments out your way. Various groups and purposes. When I get home I think might have link to similiar down in ala or ga. Do not move them. Smiles.

 

[Bev]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

Moving them would take a backhoe and a big prayer. There's no way I could I was hoping it was around the stone or nearby!

 

[Ground0]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

I agree with Springfield about the Templars. It almost looks as if the "eye" may be a "gunsight" and if so, you might want to see where it's aiming.

Good luck, and nice find!

 

[Bev]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

Where it's aiming? So basically sit down and have it be at the back of my head and look straight?

 

[Shortstack]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

As a suggestion, Bev, start researching the history of this area; as far back as you can go. Use the old detective guides of who, what, where, when, how, and why. Those stones might be claim monuments put up to lay claim to that area for a country or clan.

 

[1320]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

You have to look for the next "sign". Got any old Beech trees around this location?! I'm kinda in your situation in that I found carvings on multiple Beech trees in my neck of the woods. It all started with finding the first one and with the help from members of this Forum, I found more than I bargained for. I'm still in the process of locating/mapping them. Ain't no where close to solving the mystery but the common theme from the help I've received here is distance & direction. It took a while but I finally gave into the notion that the carvings where not random, Sunday afternoon walk in the woods graffiti.

Believe in it first of all, I never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Kentucky either, but...

 

[Bev]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

I'll have to check it out! Interesting anyway even if I dont find an actual treasure!

 

[rangler]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

Bev,
well it is not a monument in the classic sense, as there must be at least 3-5 identifiable elements, the eagle for instance would be one element...however in the pics your eagle, [in the last pic looks like a large white dog head, which could be a second elements even though its from the same rock , just a different prespective..and the cross..well it l ooks more like the typical 'St. Georges Cross than the Templar, I think Springer just misspoke, as I am sure he knows the difference. St Georges in my opinion is the precurser to the Knights Templar Cross..
IF you want to be sure, take a compass with you and take the bearing or compass direction that the eagle is facing or pointing, if it says South, then just maybe you might have some little tiny bit of confirmation... Same with the Cross, check if they used Cardinal Points for the arms [N.E.S.W.]
as this cross has been found using the arms and the distance between the arms as Pointers.
And one more thing..be sure to take more pics in June around the Soltice [june 22nd] at high noon..to make sure one of the hidden elements might be a shadow..then maybe just maybe you would have
1.eagle
2.dog head
3.cross
4.shadow
and the 5th element needed to confirm it as a monument might be that cube shaped rock..very inconspicous that a true tracker knows means "xxxxx"

Oh and this is a subtle point as well...that the cross might just be natural cracks..BUT the codemakers used ecactly this kind of thing to confuse people like springer..hehe it is called 'rock incorporation' and is very much used in the laying down of treaure signs and marks...

include in your research any old type of mines and or quarries in this general area..the spanish mined for lots of things besides gold and silver., antimony, cinnnabar, saltpeter,salt, limestone,coal, ect ect.

take the pics with at least 5 megapixels..10 is far better, so that you can zoom in on the pic in your pc, and crawl over every square inch of these rocks...as that eye you mentioned, I saw a circle with an X
inside it..which is a real true sign or mark..meaning end of the trail.. for one use, and keep to the left as you pass this marker..so my favorite 'church goodies' buried somewhere around here..

widen your area of search and look for more signs, if this one is real there will be more..good luck , have fun, and springer was right about one thing, there is nothing under the rocks - if you find nothing else , no shadows or minute marks hidden from the naked eye..then it is just a set of rocks, innocent and perhaps just a farmers marker meaning he moved them out of his way while farming or ect.
oro discriminate
rangler

 

[Springfield]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

ragler, please pull your preceding post. This woman doesn't need your nonsence to send her in empty circles. Your snake oil may sell with the greedy/gullible, but she is merely innocent and curious. Why do you do this sort of thing?

 

[Bev]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

Wow, I think Ill just metal detect around it and hope instead. Youre right, I innocently came upon some interesting rocks. Clearly Im out of my element!

 

[Shortstack]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

Bev:
PLEASE, research the history of this area. If your research shows that the Spanish were active in that area, then check to see of there is a history of metals / minerals found in the area that they might have tried to recover. If these searches say to you that there is a possibility of some goodies being left behind, then start your search for trail markers and monuments. The cold fact is that, just because a group of early explorers go through an area does NOT mean they buried anything of value for later recovery. Heck, if they buried EVERYTHING they found, the King would have been sending some folks with very sharp "tools" to find out why nothing was being shipped back to him.
Find out WHO was in your area. WHEN they were there. WHAT their purposes were. WHERE they settled and moved on to from there. HOW did they existed with the "natives". WHY, they left the area. Was there no valuables to hold their interests?

 

[oddrock]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

Bev,
well it is not a monument in the classic sense, as there must be at least 3-5 identifiable elements, the eagle for instance would be one element...however in the pics your eagle, [in the last pic looks like a large white dog head, which could be a second elements even though its from the same rock , just a different prespective..and the cross..well it l ooks more like the typical 'St. Georges Cross than the Templar, I think Springer just misspoke, as I am sure he knows the difference. St Georges in my opinion is the precurser to the Knights Templar Cross..
IF you want to be sure, take a compass with you and take the bearing or compass direction that the eagle is facing or pointing, if it says South, then just maybe you might have some little tiny bit of confirmation... Same with the Cross, check if they used Cardinal Points for the arms [N.E.S.W.]
as this cross has been found using the arms and the distance between the arms as Pointers.
And one more thing..be sure to take more pics in June around the Soltice [june 22nd] at high noon..to make sure one of the hidden elements might be a shadow..then maybe just maybe you would have
1.eagle
2.dog head
3.cross
4.shadow
and the 5th element needed to confirm it as a monument might be that cube shaped rock..very inconspicous that a true tracker knows means "xxxxx"

Oh and this is a subtle point as well...that the cross might just be natural cracks..BUT the codemakers used ecactly this kind of thing to confuse people like springer..hehe it is called 'rock incorporation' and is very much used in the laying down of treaure signs and marks...

include in your research any old type of mines and or quarries in this general area..the spanish mined for lots of things besides gold and silver., antimony, cinnnabar, saltpeter,salt, limestone,coal, ect ect.

take the pics with at least 5 megapixels..10 is far better, so that you can zoom in on the pic in your pc, and crawl over every square inch of these rocks...as that eye you mentioned, I saw a circle with an X
inside it..which is a real true sign or mark..meaning end of the trail.. for one use, and keep to the left as you pass this marker..so my favorite 'church goodies' buried somewhere around here..

widen your area of search and look for more signs, if this one is real there will be more..good luck , have fun, and springer was right about one thing, there is nothing under the rocks - if you find nothing else , no shadows or minute marks hidden from the naked eye..then it is just a set of rocks, innocent and perhaps just a farmers marker meaning he moved them out of his way while farming or ect.
oro discriminate
rangler

That is something I will for the most part agree with. Sir Springfield can you offer more...in a positive way?

Oddrck

 

[Springfield]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

....That is something I will for the most part agree with. Sir Springfield can you offer more...in a positive way?

Oddrck

Yes, see my post from Jan 29, 2012, 12:20:50 PM. It was positive then, as now.

 

[oddrock]

Re: Never thought I'd find a treasure sign in Rhode Island but...

....That is something I will for the most part agree with. Sir Springfield can you offer more...in a positive way?

Oddrck

Yes, see my post from Jan 29, 2012, 12:20:50 PM. It was positive then, as now.

Sir Springfield

I will agree that is good advice. .. . for most people.. .. or everyone,,,I have pretty much suggested to everybody to not give up their day job if they pursuer this hobby.

Oddrock