Need to find documented proof of Beale Papers Authenticity

[Old Silver]

You do get that the Beale Papers was written in 1884/1885 and not in the 1820's?

60 years after the duel with copyright owner Ward's grandfather, so the name Thomas Beale would be remembered as part of the local lore- nothing less, nothing more- and the Beale character in the job pamphlet is "Thomas J Beale".
You know for a fact that Beale was famous in Lynchburg between 1820-1822?
He was known in New Orleans for his Beale Rifles Militia during the Battle of New Orleans, as owner of the Planters & Merchants Hotel on 10 Canal Street, and his Uptown Plantation, and his death in New Orleans, September 1820.
Do you need additional rope?

So if his name would have been so well known, then all the more reason to realize that the people of that day would have remembered whether or not he, or another man by that name, had visited Robert Morriss. As for that, we don't know that the TJB of the story was the Thomas Beale you refer to here.

I do NOT know for a fact that Beale was famous at that time. The point is, the people would have known if he had been, and they would have known if he HADN'T been. Common sense.
My rope seems to be sufficient.

 

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[tad10]

Why? Unless you plan to write a paper to get your PhD, you don't need primary source materials. What you need to do is find someone to write a computer program to analyze those codes and truly solve them....

Computer programs aren't going to help you with the Beale if you don't already know what you're looking for.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

With a huge population in Lynchburg, Va at the turn of the century surely there is someone, somebody in Lynchburg, Va that kept a diary during the years 1885 to 1902. With 1885 being the year the Beale Papers were published for sale in the Lynchburg, Va area and 1902 being the year that Clayton Hart went and talked to James Beverly Ward. There has got to be someone within the "FAMILY" that kept a diary or journal. Let us see if we can find that diary. I know for a fact Peter Viemeister had a diary of James Beverly Ward, I held it in my hands. Rebel KGC get in touch with his wife and see if we can read that diary.

Peter kept the diary back in the far corner of the right hand back room. That is where he kept his printer and everything. Is the store still there or has it closed?

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[Rebel - KGC]

Without documentation, not relevant to the discussion, just useless speculation, until it's something that YOU want to believe. It's like another poster has said, people will believe whatever they want to be true. That includes you.

Beale was famous in the area from 1820-1822, so yeah, people would have known. Or if that wasn't true, then they would have know that too. Get it?

Well, if Beale "was famous" in the area (Lynchburg, Va.?)... NOTHING indicated in "old" Lynchburg, Va. REAL Histories... I checked; was it a FAKE name...?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I have in my hands, REAL History of Lynchburg, Va.; BOOK - Lynchburg, Virginia: The first 200 Years; 1786-1986 by James M. Elson.
NOTHiNG on Thomas J. Beale, TJB, Thomas Beale (Sr. or Jr.), Robert MORRIS... NADA, etc. just got it from Lychburg Library, today, & will do more R & I.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

Well, if Beale "was famous" in the area (Lynchburg, Va.?)... NOTHING indicated in "old" Lynchburg, Va. REAL Histories... I checked; was it a FAKE name...?

I don't think Beale was known in Lynchburg, possibly in the area of Bufords tavern and that s from 1800-1810 or so . Not sure the dates of the tavern ?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Gonna read up to the year, 1887... NOTHING! I even have a PERSONAL copy of SKETCHBOOK OF LYNCHBURG: A Story As Told in 1887... NOTHING!