Need help with Button and Buckle ages!

[testing123]

Went to a cellar hole this weekend and found two buttons, three buckles, and a 1892-O Barber dime. I'm not sure on the age of the buttons and buckles. Any ideas?

The 1st button has a plain front but the back has a nice decoration and reads "TREBLE GILT."

The second button has a nice decorative front, and the back reads "ORANGE COLOUR." I'm afraid to clean it too much, as it's flaking a bit... Do you think a quick hit with soap, water and a toothbrush would be beneficial or hurt it?

The three buckles are in the 1st image.

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

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[woody50]

Have you had any trouble with the patina fading using lemon juice? I have lost the patina on some nice green copper that way.
Daryl

Of course that would be the result because you're not suppose to use it on those. That's a job for the HP.

Hey Iron Patch, what is HP

Hydrogen peroxide.

Sh_t, should have known.... Thanks

Hmm... never thought about that, I guess have to look in to it, I did see a part of this forum where they talked about cleaning. Funny that the BioProfessor did not mention it to me. We do use HP but then only say for old tiles, which have gotten some organic gunk on them. It works very good. A lot of the tiles that come out of the ground here have that.

Yeah you'll see it come up quite a bit for cleaning coppers.

 

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[TORRERO]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

 

[shaun7]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

 

[Iron Patch]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

 

[shaun7]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

 

[Iron Patch]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

Ribs

 

[shaun7]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

Ribs

I can see BBQ sauce on your fingers

 

[Iron Patch]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

Ribs

I can see BBQ sauce on your fingers

That's dirt.... we have dirt in the ground here when we dig our finds. What do you guys have... fluff?

 

[shaun7]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

Ribs

I can see BBQ sauce on your fingers

That's dirt.... we have dirt in the ground here when we dig our finds. What do you guys have... fluff?

We don't have "dirt" in England


Now you say that though, the dirt you didn't bother to clean off the XP was red

 

[Iron Patch]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

Ribs

I can see BBQ sauce on your fingers

That's dirt.... we have dirt in the ground here when we dig our finds. What do you guys have... fluff?

We don't have "dirt" in England


Now you say that though, the dirt you didn't bother to clean off the XP was red

Yeah I meant to leave it "broken" and dirty. Now that I think about it what cockroaches they were for charging you that much for a detector in that state.

 

[hammered]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

Ribs

I can see BBQ sauce on your fingers

That's dirt.... we have dirt in the ground here when we dig our finds. What do you guys have... fluff?

We don't have "dirt" in England


Now you say that though, the dirt you didn't bother to clean off the XP was red

Actually we have soil round here . And really special soil in the Channel Islands where a very special spud called the Jersey Royal .

hammered

 

[shaun7]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

Ribs

I can see BBQ sauce on your fingers

That's dirt.... we have dirt in the ground here when we dig our finds. What do you guys have... fluff?

We don't have "dirt" in England


Now you say that though, the dirt you didn't bother to clean off the XP was red

Actually we have soil round here . And really special soil in the Channel Islands where a very special spud called the Jersey Royal .

hammered

 

[Iron Patch]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

Ribs

I can see BBQ sauce on your fingers

That's dirt.... we have dirt in the ground here when we dig our finds. What do you guys have... fluff?

We don't have "dirt" in England


Now you say that though, the dirt you didn't bother to clean off the XP was red

Actually we have soil round here . And really special soil in the Channel Islands where a very special spud called the Jersey Royal .

hammered

Sounds lovely but I'll stick with dirt!

 

[hammered]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

Ribs

I can see BBQ sauce on your fingers

That's dirt.... we have dirt in the ground here when we dig our finds. What do you guys have... fluff?

We don't have "dirt" in England


Now you say that though, the dirt you didn't bother to clean off the XP was red

Actually we have soil round here . And really special soil in the Channel Islands where a very special spud called the Jersey Royal .

hammered

Sounds lovely but I'll stick with dirt!

Jersey Royals grown in soil .

hammered

 

[shaun7]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

Ribs

I can see BBQ sauce on your fingers

That's dirt.... we have dirt in the ground here when we dig our finds. What do you guys have... fluff?

We don't have "dirt" in England


Now you say that though, the dirt you didn't bother to clean off the XP was red

Actually we have soil round here . And really special soil in the Channel Islands where a very special spud called the Jersey Royal .

hammered

Sounds lovely but I'll stick with dirt!

Jersey Royals grown in soil .

hammered

They look nice, but if my missus put a plate of potato's with a leaf on them in front of me...after a hard day on Treasurenet

Where's the meat?

 

[RPG]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

Ribs

I can see BBQ sauce on your fingers

That's dirt.... we have dirt in the ground here when we dig our finds. What do you guys have... fluff?

We don't have "dirt" in England


Now you say that though, the dirt you didn't bother to clean off the XP was red

Actually we have soil round here . And really special soil in the Channel Islands where a very special spud called the Jersey Royal .

hammered

Sounds lovely but I'll stick with dirt!

Jersey Royals grown in soil .

hammered

They look nice, but if my missus put a plate of potato's with a leaf on them in front of me...after a hard day on Treasurenet

Where's the meat!

On my grill, as we speak.

 

[hammered]

Careful with the lemon juice. it will strip down to bear metal. I stopped using it as it was too tough on the patina. Even mixed with olive oil it is too tough for me to start with.

Daryl

Has anyone tried Hydrogen Poroxide on old stuff..
I used it on some wheats not long ago and found the patina seems to stay in tack, but the dirt
comes off real well...

I use it on old stuff because it's the only finds I dig, or would bother cleaning. Yes, that is a good trick for keeping patina... just don't run it under the water when you're done because it defeats the purpose.

Here's a few done with HP to remove the dirt, but keep the green. The idea is to thin it out enough to make it look good, but not washing away most of the color. (They are a bit more green in person - patina usually doesn't show as well in pics)

I really like that Liard IP


Have you been eating ribs

Ribs

I can see BBQ sauce on your fingers

That's dirt.... we have dirt in the ground here when we dig our finds. What do you guys have... fluff?

We don't have "dirt" in England


Now you say that though, the dirt you didn't bother to clean off the XP was red

Actually we have soil round here . And really special soil in the Channel Islands where a very special spud called the Jersey Royal .

hammered

Sounds lovely but I'll stick with dirt!

Jersey Royals grown in soil .

hammered

They look nice, but if my missus put a plate of potato's with a leaf on them in front of me...after a hard day on Treasurenet

Where's the meat!

On my grill, as we speak.

Carving it now . I used to work at this butchers and did some of the hogroasts. By the way that isn't me.

hammered

 

[woody50]

Never heard of it. Where do you get it?
Daryl

It's a rust eater for cars, but you can dilute it....ebay sells it
SS

SS, I have searched ebay co uk and could not find any mention of it. BTW ebay does not sell anything, people using it do. Could you send me a link?

 

[woody50]

Sometimes you gotta try what you got. Can't buy HP in the Netherlands.
Daryl

Daryl, HP or Hydrogen Peroxide can be found in every drugstore and most "do it self" stores in Holland.

Only its called something else. Because Hydrogen is in Dutch waterstof here its called waterstofperoxide, and sometimes waterstofperoxyde.

(there are web translating programs).

 

[hammered]

NO..No it's not or anything like it... ITs HOGROASTS. ....For gog sakes , in the case of extreme munchies HOGROASTS Don't tease.

Sorry I'm over it now, eat my dog.

hammered