Need help on makers marks Hatchet

[Tnmountains]

Some time back I posted this here in "What Is It".

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,288342.0.html

Since then I did my first electrolysis and was able to get some print off of it. I keep trying to make this a Confederate civil war camp hatchet. Here is why..
1.Hardee hat pin found on the site and some CW bullets.
2. As a kid we played there and had a fort and an inscription on a limestone overhang read 11-63 and a pistol was carved in the rock. It has been vandalised and the carving is now gone.
3. The battle site is in Graysville, Ga and has now been bull dozed into a sub division since last year.
4. This is English cast steel. Due to lack of heat resistant clay crucibles, extensive
production of high quality crucible cast steel didn't begin in the United States until after
the Civil War.
Here is what I am reading TENEY.....English Cast Steel. I can not find this anywhere on hatchets and axes.
Thanks for the additional help.
TnMtns

 

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[IronSpike]

That hatchet cleaned up really nice well done

Good research on the piece

 

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[BuckleBoy]

That is a great, mid-1800s tool with an identifiable maker's mark. Bravo! I call that one SEXY piece of iron.

 

[haybudden2]

A fair amount of "English Cast Steel" was imported into the
U.S. by companies like the American Fur Company and the
U.S. Government between 1820 thru the 1840's. The Steel
was shipped into the field because a lot of Smiths had
problems working with "Blister Steel" which was more
available. (Blister steel was wrought iron that was refired
with bone char to induce carbon into its surface) It didn't
make durable tools as they were prone to fail.
English Cast Steel being prefered material by ax and tool
makers of the time.
The Hatchet could easily be CW.
Nice find.

Hay2

 

[Tnmountains]

From the research of this fine board:
You all have identified the man who made the hatchet as "Albert TEN EYCK who was born in Sharon, N. Y., Sept. 2, 1841. In 1860 he listed his occupation as an axe maker. In 1876 he formed his own company.
A fair amount of "English Cast Steel" was imported into the
U.S. by companies like the American Fur Company and the
U.S. Government between 1820 thru the 1840's.

The only way I am thinking it could be civil war and used in Nov of 1863 is if Albert was using the imported English cast steel at age 19 while plying his listed trade making axes and was able to stamp his own name on them. It could be possible I guess but I am leaning towards it coming from his company he formed after 1876 before it burned down.
Does everyone agree with this? I think the research has been great and have learned a lot and feel it is a candidate for a green check.
Sometimes as much as we want an association with a certain time period facts do not or can not confirm it. I am happy to have found it, restored it and learned it's history.
TnMtns

 

[kuger]

From the research of this fine board:
You all have identified the man who made the hatchet as "Albert TEN EYCK who was born in Sharon, N. Y., Sept. 2, 1841. In 1860 he listed his occupation as an axe maker. In 1876 he formed his own company.
A fair amount of "English Cast Steel" was imported into the
U.S. by companies like the American Fur Company and the
U.S. Government between 1820 thru the 1840's.

The only way I am thinking it could be civil war and used in Nov of 1863 is if Albert was using the imported English cast steel at age 19 while plying his listed trade making axes and was able to stamp his own name on them. It could be possible I guess but I am leaning towards it coming from his company he formed after 1876 before it burned down.
Does everyone agree with this? I think the research has been great and have learned a lot and feel it is a candidate for a green check.
Sometimes as much as we want an association with a certain time period facts do not or can not confirm it. I am happy to have found it, restored it and learned it's history.
TnMtns

great research,thats what makes this board so awesome!!!

 

[Tnmountains]

I did just check the 1860 census and Abram TenEyck is listed as age 38 in Cohoes, NY Occupation- Axemaker.

So A. TenEyck was making axes in Cohoes prior to the 1866 founding of the Ten Eyck Axe Co.

Ok just a thought as I do not want to run a post into the ground

Maybe the older Abraham not the younger Albert made the axe and used the trade steel from the fur trade of the 1820-1840 and that would explain the English cast steel mark. If I could find one similiar from the company they formed the A. TenEyck or Teney ck from Cohoes,Ny 1866 or 1876 and it is NOT marked English cast steel, That would very likely put this at that battle camp of Nov 63 in Graysville, Ga.,, and made by the older brother.lol I feel I have asked enough though and need to go the library and see if they have any books on old axe/hatchets.

 

[Davers]

I just read the thread , it 'sounds' like you have pretty much figured out it's time period.

I to hope its CW usage ESP, Confederate .

I found mine in an area , I found not real far from my house , from the relics tell me A-lot ) (some of the site is built on since 1960's)

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From what I've compiled from the relics dug there ( IMO There was a US Calvary Patrol or overnight camp) ?? I dug 7-9 complete Spencer's and Several Broken ones along with fired cases with no fired Spencer bullets within 75-100 yards to the North.

All the fired & dropped Spencer's were mainly in a 30 x 30 ft area with a few fired Spencer cases scattered in random places .

Now around all the Union Calvary relics were fired Confederate Types & a few of my favorite 'Drops' 3 Ga , Teat Bases , fired Gardner's , many .58 & .69 Fired Balls , approx 50 + fired rounds (all confederate IMHO) that seemed to be concentrated around the Dropped and fired Sharp's .

The AX head was found in an area where I assume the Confederates would have been firing from.

Thanks for your help & every-ones great info here. I got to fire up my Electrolysis and look for similar markings .

Ill try to get the Wife to post you /everyone a picture ASAP .

Can I send pics via PM ?

GD & Thanks.